Let's argue!!! Tell me why you're voting for McCain :D

Guy · Backside 180 Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 842 City: Orillia

because hes white Smash

Volcomstone167 · Posted: Oct 17, 2008 10:26 am Post subject:

there is no reason to argue about this. Obama ftw

pyroskater00 · Posted: Oct 17, 2008 10:27 am Post subject:

Because he will not punish me by raising my taxes when I work my small business in to a medium sized business. Who would want to work harder and create more jobs for America if you were just going to be taxed more because you are "Rich". Fvck redistribution of wealth. I would rather my small business stay at 230,000$ a year than 260,000 a year. Evil or Very Mad

uidzero · Kickflip Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 3839 City: Casselberry

pyroskater00, And your moral outrage is not sparked by the top tax bracket being 36% (or 35%, whatever) RIGHT NOW, but if it goes up to 39% suddenly it's a SOCIALIST WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION SCHEME? At what point between 35% and 39% did we go from the current administration's rich-person-friendly tax scheme to a Marxist/Leninist kill-the-rich plot?

uidzero · Kickflip Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 3839 City: Casselberry

Guy, bigot

edrex · Backside 180 Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 1020 City: NorCal

uidzero, when a terrorist proposed a tax hike. Duh.

And, for the record, a business making $230,000/year and paying 35% nets $149,500.
A business making $260,000/year and paying 39% nets $158,600. So you'd still be coming out ahead. And if you fall into a range where you aren't that much higher over the $250k mark, then just find yourself a good accountant who will find ways to drop you below that mark.

pyroskater00 · Posted: Oct 17, 2008 10:37 am Post subject:

1. 35% is a base tax. Your check gets it's ass taxed a fvckload more than that.

What do you define as a rich person friendly tax scheme...

Not everybody "just so happends to be" a rich power hungry executive like everyone portrays rich people to be. You know, some of them actually WORKED for their shizzle.

My personal philosophy is that there should be a flat taxation across the board.

You make 10,000 a year? 1,000$ will be taken by the government.

You make 500,000 a year? 50,000$ will be taken by the government.

I just don't like giveaways dude.

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. TEACH a man to fish, feed him for life.

Guy · Backside 180 Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 842 City: Orillia

uidzero, Sarah palin....

Not

i'm only joking...

POPTART · 360 flip Joined: 24 Jul 2007 Posts: 7621

Because if obama did make these cuts with the economy in the state that it is , large corporations are going to have to pay more money to the people they already can't afford to employ, so they are going to outsource, and then there will be no one to sit at the table to write large tax checks to the government because nothing will be made in America anymore and we will be a giant consumerist nation ( like we already are)

pyroskater00 · Posted: Oct 17, 2008 10:56 am Post subject:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Small business owner^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

edrex · Backside 180 Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 1020 City: NorCal

pyroskater00 · Posted: Oct 17, 2008 10:58 am Post subject:

edrex, USuckAss, I think would be a good name, and we should use it while we can, because we cannot be the world's military leader soon. Neutral

edrex · Backside 180 Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 1020 City: NorCal

Out of curiousity, is there anyone who is not a small business owner that is outraged about the proposed raise in taxes? Joe Sixpacks? Hockey Moms? What say you?

EJazzle · Posted: Oct 17, 2008 11:19 am Post subject:

uidzero, i dont understand where Obama is gonna get the funds for the "plans" he has.

The last person to raise taxes during economic turmoil, Hoover. Hello great depression!

TWG · Kickflip Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 3258

go read obamas tax plan before you speak on it people!

uidzero · Kickflip Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 3839 City: Casselberry

pyroskater00, So you didn't like the "give away" tax cuts the current administration gave to that tax bracket either? I never made the assumption that all 'rich' people are power hungry execs BTW.

Fair/Flat tax is a whole other issue and isn't one that McCain has included in his platform but I'll respond.

The rich are *all over* this flat tax thing, so you'd have to guess they are all either just plain wrong on the issue, or they are just willing and ready to pay more in overall taxes to help the US, or last (and most likely) they will be paying less in taxes.

And if they are paying less in taxes, and the poor can't pay any more regardless of what their tax rate is (% changes on damn little makes hump change either way) then it will fall back to us middle class taxpayers.

So where's the giveaways? We're not talking about welfare here, we're talking about millions of hard working Americans.

The idea that you're not going to want to grow your small business to the point where you are personally making more the 250k per year simply because of a tiny tax hike is retarded.

TWG · Kickflip Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 3258

uidzero · Kickflip Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 3839 City: Casselberry

uidzero · Kickflip Joined: 01 Jun 2005 Posts: 3839 City: Casselberry

EJazzle, FYI Hoover increased taxes across the board, and the percentage increased with income. Soooo that has what to do with Obama's tax plan? He also implemented a 13.75% tax on corporations.

Clue > You