Cassette '06

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10757 City: Jefferton

vance, what are you talking about? Or more specifically, what skate decks are you talking about?

as for the composite flexing, nekkie tried to make his little hybrid wakeskate and he said that it didn't work with that tolstoy on top. So I think the flexing has a lot to do with how it works. It's like the hardware is what gives that top deck room to flex, and the energy from that top deck is what helps accelerate that board out of the water. But that's just a theory and I could be totally wrong.

jboss · Kickflip Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 3210 City: Chalmette

electricsnow, yea that thing nekkie made was HOMEMADE, if he would have made it with a wood deck it probably still wouldnt have worked.

Nekkie · Posted: Jul 26, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject:

thanks jboss lol Razz

but your probably right, main issue was that the integ was too wide and sticking out on the sides. Didn't want to sand it so droped the project so I could still ride the tolstoy.

But as jboss puts it, if you did it like a *pro* it would work for sure.

as for the bi vs integ they are both different decks and the bi really stands out form the rest of the market. When they work out their initial flaws it will be killer Evil or Very Mad

one-eyed sailor551 · Backside 180 Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1111 City: mahopac

Nekkie, how wide are the integs. do you still have the tolstoy that i could take off your hands maybe Laughing

rob wharton · Posted: Jul 27, 2005 10:17 am Post subject:

i always agree with electric snow...what skate decks from "all the major companies" are made from composite and not wood???? but the integrity did flex a lot, but if you feel a wood 4-trac, which i stated when i tried an integrity and didnt like it, it has less flex than the integ. i think it needs to be thick enough and strong enough that the little flex that a wood deck will do from all the pressure exerted on it, it will give enough spring back to make a difference. i felt that the integrity was to thin and flexible and that the spring back was nice when you bent it or flexed it on the dock, but when i rode it, i felt it tracked so deeply in the water and was way to flexible to get any power when i tried to pop it.

parky · Kickflip Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 3193

I cant emagine the stress thomas must be going through about all of this... two years in a row... I have total respect for him running this company, making skates and being a pro wakeskater at the same time...

I wish thomas luck on gettin er together Smile

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10757 City: Jefferton

no offense, but if you don't want to start rumors then you probably shouldn't say something on a message board. shizzle spreads like wildfire on here...

Schmaltz · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 721 City: San Jose

DRAGON88 · Dragoon Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1020 City: Portland

Thomas and Cassette will be back in '06, '07, '08 exc. Even if they do crappy. Think about it kids, if Cassette didn't have a major investor they would have tanked 04 year. Wakeskating is not a rich industry, and although I don't know how much Thomas makes per year (none of my business) I'd be willing to gamble that him by himself couldn't make it happen after a failed year...

That's just my two cents.

Don't get me wrong Thomas needs to be in this industry, but I don't see Cassette "tanking" any time soon...

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

rob wharton, I dont think youve ridden an 05 then. . . .

as far as Thomas I really feel like hes an Integral part of the soul of our sport, but I cant cry to big of tears for somebody whos doing it to themselves, some people may disagree, with me and thats fine I am no expert, but thats my feeling, customer service is Key especially if you have a product that is crapping out on you you HAVE to make up the difference in customer service. but I dont think Thomas is going anywhere and I hope they get there problems worked out for 06, b/c all the money/investors in the world wont save their Image from another year like the last two

jboss · Kickflip Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 3210 City: Chalmette

DRAGON88, thats true, theyve had bad years before and they didnt stop. think about it, mainly the people who said theyre not gonna make bis anyone, the bi is theyre top selling board, theyre not gonna get all their money back by selling flat decks and 4tracs. if they fix the delaming problem and continue making bis, then theyll probably get back on track.

wakefield · Faceplant Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 34

if they don't get their sh#t together they WILL go out of business. MAJOR investors are not major idiots. they invest their money to make money. why would someone keep investing money in an operation that fails year in year out (assuming the trend continues). don't give me the tax write off excuse either. that lessens the blow but doesn't wipe it out. if you lose $10,000 then you can only save $4000 (assuming 40% tax rate). so overall you still lose $6000. i'm sure cassettee is way above these figures and it think it's safe to assume that if they don't straighten it out they'll go down (hopefullly not).

gorath112 · Posted: Jul 27, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject:

cut all the bs i just was riding with reed this weekend and he is rockin a 05 bi-level bottom and a o6 top and he said he was riding the 06 top for like two weeks, and nothing was happenning to it, he said the delam problems were fixed, the 06 will come out and the bi level will be the best board on the market, hands down stop trying to make gay rumors about stuff that you know nothing about, please

Vance Collins · Guest

electricsnow,

Sarcasm. Laughing

I thought you of all people would have got it! Laughing

one-eyed sailor551 · Backside 180 Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1111 City: mahopac

what in the hell is sarcasm Laughing

honestly, if you wanna hide something from the american public just put it in a book

Vance Collins · Guest

I don't get any of your jokes.

one-eyed sailor551 · Backside 180 Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 1111 City: mahopac

senorbueno · Backside 180 Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 1593

one-eyed sailor551, keep up the good work

Re-entry · Ollie Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 62

I say you all STFU and listen gorath112 knows what hes talking about...

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10757 City: Jefferton

Thank you vance, because I was totally confused! I was seriously like....what? Is he serious? I know lib has some funny designs, but outside of that, I've only heard of dwindle working on a layer of carbon fiber inside a wood deck.

And there weren't any emoticons in your post or anything.

gorath, I'm pretty envious of you. I saw reed was going to be in MN doing some clinics and i wished so badly that I could have found out where he was and driven over for a day. I love having a day off for the strict purpose of driving somewhere to ride. I miss that a lot, and I don't do it as much. Where was the demo you attended?