is 5hp enough?

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

scott a, thanks I knew youd come around Laughing

erikn, no way man, Evan is absolutely right.

EvanPark, good awnser I have taught you well my young jedi lol

TYLER** · Posted: Mar 30, 2005 1:31 am Post subject:

25 will get you up but thats reeeaaalll slow... behind a boat at least

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

TYLER**, for a winch, 25 would be hawt though

parky · Kickflip Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 3193

TYLER**, you dont know what your talking about... ive got a 15 and I probably get up faster than I do behind a boat...

TYLER** · Posted: Mar 30, 2005 9:37 am Post subject:

and i ride behind a 25. NOW its like nothin but the first day i could barely get up. yall are right, im sure you could get up with somethin smaller, to me 25 is just enough to where its not to much work to get up.

erikn · Posted: Mar 30, 2005 10:01 am Post subject:

TYLER**, but a boat engine is alot different from a winch. The engine on your boat has to pull its own, the drivers, the boats och your weight. The engine on a winch only have to pull the riders weight. And on a winch you can play around with different gear-setups to get as much torque out of the engine as possible. Therefor you should be able to use a 5hp engine or even less. Well, i guess there is only one way to figure it out.... the old trial end error techniqe! Smash

TYLER** · Posted: Mar 30, 2005 10:18 am Post subject:

yeah i realized that like a min before that was posted. disreguard a lot of what i say, im sick and some some hardcore medicine....goin back to sleep

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

erikn, dont expect to do deep waters

Steven M · Posted: Mar 30, 2005 8:46 pm Post subject:

a 5hp motor if geared right will pull you up deep water. i know it will pull form 300ft easily...

parky · Kickflip Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 3193

TYLER**, I've pritty much mastered my 15... I just stand up right off the gate so the only brag is your legs and the board... Just plains right up!!! erikn, you wont be able to deal water start with just 5 BELIVE me... please take my word for it and dont go out and buy a 5 horse engine

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

WaKeSk8er209, "if geared right" means it is geared for torque, on average a 5hp motorcycle motor makes 3ftlbs of torque meaning it wont reach 22 mph on the same gear ratio. . that is unless you have a mutiple gearing system. . . .a transmission.

Steven M · Posted: Mar 30, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject:

kento it didnt quite reach 22mph it reached right around 20mph with the gearing it had...

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

WaKeSk8er209, how much do you weigh, and what are the measurmeents of the board you were riding, and what type of drive system were you using, also how were you measuring speed??

Steven M · Posted: Mar 31, 2005 12:12 am Post subject:

185 lbs, 112cm ('04 Catalyst), ReWind Winch...

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

Steven M · Posted: Mar 31, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:

speed was rough estimate. it was right around 20mph maybe a little less...

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

Im not going to name drop, but lets just say a pro rider was riding behind a gas powered winch with 11hp, and a fairly wide board at 195 lbs and the centrifugal clutch system slipped to much to pull him up

so what gearing do you figure will make up for a 6hp defficit in hp??

Goad · Faceplant Joined: 31 Mar 2005 Posts: 2 City: True

It is less about HP, ratios, and torque than it is about skill. You can't rely on the winch to do everything for you, it requires the rider to have skill.

I've seen people unable to get up behind 300+ HP boats in deepwater. Was there not enough HP? No, they were learning and lacked skill.

Finally, WaKeSk8er209, is not lying. During a speed test, a 5 HP winch has been clocked by a following Sea Doo at 23 MPH. Less than 5 HP was used in Sfumato, and a 5 HP can and has pulled deep (30 ft +) water starts.

This is not my opinion or estimation. These are merely facts.

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

parky · Kickflip Joined: 04 Oct 2004 Posts: 3193

Goad, I seriously dought anyone could get up behind a 5hp winch.... kento911, I wouldn't get your balls all tided up in a not here... just let it be, some people have there fews and you have yours... you have even told me yourself you never agree with people Laughing