Remote board

[khowe22]

First of all, Remote is one of the sickest wakeskating brands out there, in my opinion. They are all about it, passionate about everything that they do, and really put in everything they have into their brand. However Im getting a the 41 horan model board and there are some air bubbles on the bottom sheet, and I was wondering what effect that would have on the board. If it would delaminate or whatever..

[RC]

Nope. Go shred it.

[mojo]

regardless that is pretty weak. i know it's not a 350.00 board, but regardless of price there should be no defects. i've heard about bubbles from the few folks on here that have them already. it's what you get for not owning your own manufacturing plant. no personal, daily quality control. that said, as soon as i get my boat fixed and then save more $ im getting a 40.5

[skateboard]

its not to big of a deal its like when you get bubbles in your griptape.
just pop them and they dont come back. but i am sure they will get it fixed soon!

[Culp]

my remote pops even without poping the air bubbles

it's just a graphic

[mojo]

not really. it's a blemish

[electricsnow]

man, how realistic is it for most companies to actually own a plant? Tons of skateboard companies depend on a manufacturer (like PS stix) to make their boards. Not a big deal. At least remote's MFG is in close proximity so the dudes can stop in and be a bit more hands on with their boards.

[wakesk8kid]

how do you get one?! i can't find one anywhere

[mojo]

i'm just saying. IMO, you're less of a company if you don't manufacture your own goods. maybe they will when they get some positive cash flow in a few years. i can tell you if i owned a board company i would never let something leave the factory like that. granted batches of all types of products have runs of bad ones; i still hate the idea of the way they do it. imagine if nautique let mastercraft build their boats. same concept.

[electricsnow]

I think you can draw lines in a lot of ways. I personally have a lot of respect for a company that has a lot of control over their image, advertising, team videos, et al. This gets old for some people but I think cassette was an amazing prototype for how rad a rider-run company can be. Seriously amazing branding, from the ads to the website to any other business relationships (like the seadoo ad campaign, and how the imagery of cassette was consistent with what you saw in those sea doo ads). Plus I don't think any other company has produced videos that were completely done in house, maybe excluding the liquid force films/justin stephens relationship. On the flip side, Cassette never owned a factory...that's a HUGE investment. Especially in this economy, that's insane. Even wakeskate companies that do make their own boards (which is how many? 1?) don't have huge production numbers, and with that kind of commitment comes losses in other areas.

I think comparing boats to wakeskates is more like comparing apples to oranges, and I guess for me it boils down to technological differences between boat companies vs. what actually goes into a wakeskate or a skateboard.

[mojo]

boats and boards are the same. just a mold, glass, and gel coat. the fact that company produces nothing and remote produces nothing just seems lame to me. it's just how i perceive it. it's better than having things made in china or dubai, but come on. actually make something you sell. and let's say 4 presses, couldn't be more than 40,000 at the most. that's pennies

[wakemitch]

mojo, hyperlite, cwb, gator, byerly, oak, remote, and sattelyte dont make their own boards. its not a big deal. no skateboard company does. manufactuers focus on building decks, the skate company brands, markets, and sells the product, but sometimes a distribution company sells the product. its how it works. its hard to spread a company to thin by trying to do everything

[mojo]

since when did hyperlite stop making their own boards? gator used to have theirs pressed by hyperlite. im not sure about what goes on now. i just don't like it. invest in your business. control how and when your stuff is produced and what quality it has before it ships out. i mean how many decks is new producing for remote? it has to be a very very very slim number. go try to buy a heritage. you MIGHT be able to get one now, but there's been problems b/c byerly doesn't get to control anything except design/materials. nothing to do with the actual lay up.

[wakemitch]

mojo, you cant get wood skates from hyperite/byerly.

you just dont get it

[daniel]

[mojo]

then explain it to me so i can understand. i'm serious. i'd like to be enlightened. why would you tell me what i just said about not being able to get any wood byerly stuff? maybe i have an old school idea of business. create a product, produce the product, and then sell the product and expand your market as much as possible w/o sacrificing quality or losing sight of why you started which should be love and money. i know all about distribution and production and how production can be done elsewhere cheaper, but that's not my vision of owning a company.

[dpc1192]

who cares? mine has them too and it's still the sickest thing I've ever seen.

[88skisupreme]

mojo, then don't buy one and get on with your life.

[slayshface]

The boards that are out now are some of the first ones. Practice makes perfect and i'm sure the Remote guys won't let this happen for much longer. They are a brand new company that they started, you've got to cut them some slack for now. The boards are still sick and I want one without a doubt, they will be fixed and when they are they will DOMINATE!

[wakemitch]