south park episode 200 + 201

JeffKnox · Posted: May 19, 2010 1:00 pm Post subject:

JonnyBravo, i could see how you would think we were just trying to piss them off just for the sake of it ... but really that couldnt be further from the truth

south park makes fun of everyone, (celebrities, jews, christians, gingers, black people, asians, etc)... why should one type of people be excluded?

freedom of expression is in jeopardy because of the feelings of people half way around the world... the point of "draw muhammad day" and other things of the sort is simply to desensitize the world and show we wont be bullied into losing our freedoms

yookyle · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1002 City: Reno

'MERICA!

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JeffKnox · Posted: May 20, 2010 10:13 am Post subject:

so you would rather have a nation wide ban on portraying this man? then what? christians get upset for joking about jesus watching internet porn (also on that episode) and start bombing shizzle... so now its illegal to joke about jesus... then abraham, then anyone who gets their feelings hurt.... im not saying this is going to solve our terrorism problem.... but i am saying people shouldn't be afraid to express themselves

edrex · Backside 180 Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 1020 City: NorCal

scott a, surprised you feel that way, I usually agree with your views. But in this case it sounds like you would rather coddle an entire group of people (which includes terrorists willing to kill you over their beliefs) than stand up for a peoples inherent freedom of speech. Why is this one group so special that they should be able to make others live by the tenets which they believe? Do you think Jews like being made fun of on South Park? Yet they don't get to dictate to the world that no one can crack Jew jokes anymore.
Terrorism isn't just the act of blowing up a building or hijacking a plane. It starts with the threat to do so if you piss them off. And if we all live in fear that if we do anything that might piss off the group then they will blow up a building or hijack a plane, then it has worked brilliantly.

scott a · "a" is for angel Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 4126

Just because you have the freedom to do something doesn't mean that you should actually do it. There's plenty of inflammatory things that I could say that would piss a lot of different people off, but that doesn't mean I should say them.

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, and everything to do with the fact that you KNOW they're gonna be pissed off that you just drew that picture.

They don't want their god drawn. Respect that. It's super simple, and it doesn't impact the way you go about your daily life.

edrex · Backside 180 Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 1020 City: NorCal

scott a · "a" is for angel Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 4126

edrex- stop it! I didn't see your post when I made my post (which was more in JeffKnox's direction but seemed to cover your post as well. This following bit is for you. (and I see you've posted again. gah! lemme watch sportscenter and post in peace on my day off! Laughing

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related to your first post- I can definitely see how you would feel that way about my stance on this issue. I think the thing that gets me is that they've not wanted their god drawn for years and years. Like...this goes back to before we were born. I don't see this as 'coddling' any group of people because we aren't actually changing anything about our lifestyle...we've just become very aware that they don't like something. So I think we should continue to not draw their god just like we've been doing for so many years prior to the South Park incident. I guess I just see this as being similar to walking into a packed church on a Sunday morning and dropping a steaming load right in front of the priest. Like...you could do that and express your views of the church/organized religion, but....eh.

second post- I actually kinda liked how South Park handled their recent episode. I thought Buddha (or whoever) doin a line of coke was more offensive (aaaand hilarious). South Park did what South Park does, and we all know they do a pretty solid job of making fun of everyone. So I have no objection with this. That doesn't include all of the people that are piggybacking off this purely because of their reaction, though. Seems more like a funny little trend than anything. I think what the guys over in Sweden are doing/did by putting this in the newspaper is more of a free speech act than a 'let's post pictures on facebook' day. I think that's what is getting me. Probably should have made that more clear.

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yookyle · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1002 City: Reno

i will respect them and stop drawing their god when they stop plotting ways on killing our people.
you respect me i will respect you.

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Mr. Top Hat · Dead Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 5818

edrex, I wouldn't judge an entire religion over one video. Even if everyone in that video started beating babies with baseball bats it wouldn't be a basis to criticize all Muslims as violent.

edrex · Backside 180 Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 1020 City: NorCal

Mr. Top Hat, my opinions definitely aren't formed over just that video. Its just a good recent example of what I'm talking about. Look into honor killings and the oppressive nature of Sharia Law and judge for yourself, but from what I can tell its a religion of fanatics. A self proclaimed "religion of peace" that will kill those who disagree with it. And yes, many religions have plenty of violence in their past. But how many still practice violence and intimidation as a form of spreading their views? The rest of the world has grown out of the dark ages, while Islam is firmly rooted there with no change in sight.

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: May 22, 2010 3:48 pm Post subject:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Everybody-Draw-Mohammed-Day/121369914543425

hehe

mojo · Posted: May 22, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject:

they just want everyone to succumb to their beliefs or die(the extremists do anyways) but you have to start somewhere and that is in a religion that condones this type of behavior of do it or die kind of thing. science dammit i hate those fizzle

Timebomb · Posted: May 23, 2010 2:38 pm Post subject:

I do see the point that its silly for them to make threats to people that do draw him or whatever, but at the same time people are knowingly putting themselves in harms way. Some of these guys are pretty nutty and obviously don't have any self preservation instinct. Sure its unlikely for them to pick people off Facebook and kill them but I wouldn't necessarily put it past them. It wouldn't be hard for an extremist to track down the creator of the page and make an example out of him. It seems like they're making more targets to take attention away from south park, but they could also look at it as south park created this mess that is now getting out of control so they may try to cut the head off to kill the body ya know? With such an unstable group of people I think its best just left alone.

That's my opinion anyway.