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Steven M · Posted: Nov 04, 2009 10:55 am Post subject: ????

Questions, comments, discuss?

TTUFAN24 · Posted: Nov 04, 2009 12:37 pm Post subject:

cliff's notes please. i tried my hardest but only made it about 2 minutes

crispy · Posted: Nov 04, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject:

it was alright.... only watched about 8 minutes of it though.

Guy · Backside 180 Joined: 14 Jul 2006 Posts: 842 City: Orillia

It is right... but this will turn into either a anti-obama or liberal vs. conservative thread

Le Jalapeno · Guest

Guy, truth

I watched the whole thing

its interesting and makes good points

but its a bit fantastic.

DRAGON88 · Dragoon Joined: 01 May 2004 Posts: 1020 City: Portland

What does it mean to "own" your life?

I only watched a few seconds of it, but right off the bat it makes some assumptions that are not givens. If I "own" my life, shouldn't I be allowed to sell myself as a slave if I want? How is it that if I were the sole provider for my family, and I were say injured to the point where I was no longer mentally cognizant my wife for example could sue the persons responsible for my injury and receive monetary compensation for my lost production.

Firstly it seems odd to talk about a life as being owned period, secondly it seems to me that others DO have some sort of claim on my life.

I guess I should watch it, but I'm assuming it continues on building on the initial ground work. It also talks about liberty being inexplicably tied to property, I'm not sold on that claim either. There have been many different conceptions of what constitutes liberty by many hundreds of political philosophers going back nearly half a millennium... There are different notions of what constitutes property or ownership even with the US legal tradition.

GnarShredd · Backside 180 Joined: 24 Jan 2009 Posts: 1529 City: Seattle

I didn't finish the whole thing but...

vote libertarian!

Steven M · Posted: Nov 04, 2009 11:07 pm Post subject:

Based on what you guys are saying, I'm glad I didn't waste my time watching it. Thanks.

edrex · Backside 180 Joined: 18 Oct 2006 Posts: 1020 City: NorCal

Steven M,

bob. · Posted: Nov 04, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject:

Steven M, hahahaha

we are all free to do whatever we want whenever we want

Evan71 · Posted: Nov 05, 2009 12:03 am Post subject:

i was like 25 seconds deep, couldnt hang

yookyle · Backside 180 Joined: 15 Jan 2009 Posts: 1002 City: Reno

what the ball. im i being hyponitized?

crispy · Posted: Nov 05, 2009 1:53 am Post subject:

i kept my thoughts simple. didnt go as deep into though as you didDRAGON88, ...... but from a simple point of view it makes sense

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

i only watched about 5 minutes. I started feeling like the video was made for a kindergarten class. Pointing out the obvious..

disco hippo · Posted: Nov 05, 2009 8:58 am Post subject:

Whats the diffrents between All-Welded Jon Boats and Riveted Jon & Utility Boats?
and what one is better to put a tower on?

Gnarly Dancer 42 · 360 flip Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 5121 City: kalamazoo

i only got to like a minute........ i disagree

you own your life, there isn't really a way to say otherwise