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mojo Backside 180


Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 2240 City: mob town
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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who cares. there will be another awards deal next year for everyone to beach about. whoever did that w2w 3 flip on here is sick _________________ "I said take me to the sea, cause that is where I want to be. I said take me to the sea and let my mother bury me." Buck-0-Nine |
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RISE-WITH-THE-FALLEN Pop Shuvit

Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 128 City: austin
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Andy P for president! _________________ 'skate for FUN' |
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lake weir ocala FL Backside 180

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 1241 City: Ocala
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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At this moment in time most wakeskating competitions are behind a boat.
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Which is why a lot of riders are frustrated with competitions. Riding behind a boat does not show the public what wakeskating is about.
And the numbers don't lie.
How many wakeskaters showed up to ride the boat stop of Toe Jam? 19
Compared to the 40 or so at the rail stop and winch stops.
How many wakeskaters rode at Wakestock? 6
In my opinion, the boat is a dying breed. If we really want to progress the sport, the winch/rails/cable are the way. They are the only true affordable ways to wakeskate. Which is why I have respect for the people pushing that aspect of our sport, because it is the future. One of my good friends is a sick skateboarder and after seeing Andy's part in Fun Boots! he said and I quote, " That kid rides that thing like its a skateboard ". After seeing that, he actually wanted to go wakeskate with me and see what it was about. I doubt he would have the same feeling if most of the riding was wake to wake tricks in exotic locations.
But what do I know, I'm just some kid on the intarweb that likes to wakeskate.  _________________ -Jordan Schwaller
LwC. Ride for Life. PAVT .. Since 06'
| Iamjesse wrote: | | wakeboarding is to wakeskating is like sex with a condom... it just feels better when you dont wrap up!!! |
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EJazzle faceplant

Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 4776 City: Tequesta/orlando
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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the vert ramp!  _________________
TEAM FUN!!!!!!
http://www.ejpeterson.com/
Alex saw it before YOU. |
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lake weir ocala FL Backside 180

Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 1241 City: Ocala
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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No vert for me please! _________________ -Jordan Schwaller
LwC. Ride for Life. PAVT .. Since 06'
| Iamjesse wrote: | | wakeboarding is to wakeskating is like sex with a condom... it just feels better when you dont wrap up!!! |
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wakemitch Frontside Bigspin

Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 5946 City: Yay Area
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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you see more vert skating on tv comps, then street even though probably 90% of skaters ride street.
the go big or go home mentality needs to die |
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-LoGiK- Kickflip


Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 2747 City: Orlando
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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wakemitch, lately its starting to change with the maloof money cup being one of them, the fact that it is paying vert only 75,000 and street 100,000 8-10 years ago it would have been 10,000 for vert and 5,000 for street _________________ www.jimizwakenskate.com
www.dekline.com
www.wesubsist.com |
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wakemitch Frontside Bigspin

Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 5946 City: Yay Area
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| -LoGiK-, word. maloof money cup is awesome |
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electricsnow cassette

Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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-LoGiK-, I've never taken the opposite side of the argument. The only thing I've ever said is that grubb's section is more than "shuv indys", and a lot of people who are complaining haven't even seen the section to know what's in it. And the only thing that this whole ordeal has done for me is encouraged me to see things from other people's perspectives. As I've said, I don't know who else voted but grubb winning makes me wonder where they're coming from, and it makes me think about what different people get out of a video part. I don't know. If everyone thought the same way, then there wouldn't even be a need for this debate.
Furthermore, this whole discussion kind of disappoints me because it seems like a lot of wakeskaters are closed minded when it comes to the direction wakeskating can/should take. It just seems like for some people, there's only one option, and that's for wakeskating to go in the direction "they're" pushing it. If people want to ride behind the boat, let them be. I know I love riding behind the boat, and one of my favorite things to do is try and pop my re-entry stuff as high as I can. That's gratifying to me, and I don't feel at all bad about it.
Also, my boat is worth 1000.00 at best, so it's not like you have to ride behind a $60.000 wake boat.
Finally, who even has a go big or go home mentality? _________________ *The opinions expressed are on my behalf and not those of wakeskating.com*
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wakemitch Frontside Bigspin

Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 5946 City: Yay Area
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| electricsnow wrote: | | Finally, who even has a go big or go home mentality? | i think the media has that mentality, and then they make viewers have that mentality to. the x games is obviously the biggest example. also i think a lot of recreational wakeboarders also have that mentality and thats why when they see wakeskating they think grubb is the coolest because he is boosting. |
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electricsnow cassette

Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know, I just can't even relate to that slogan because it seems like something I'd see on a nike shirt in 1993 or something. In the end, most often I think the media will take anything that's cool and make it look retarded. Quite frankly, I don't even pay attention to that.
as for wakeboarders responding to grubb, some definitely do and I'm sure it's always been that way. But people will respond to what they see differently. The one thing I really loved about wakeboarding was boosting off of a wake. I don't know how to describe it, but I liked the feeling of really loading the line and launching. But back then the wakeskaters that had the biggest impact on me were the cassette dudes, and they were so far from that. I always respected grubb, but I think I really respected him once I saw him ride in person. And in the end, if he goes big, I think that's sick (it's the same with stu shinn, because that dude is a mad man behind the boat). If you're going to do a wake to wake trick, at least pop it and follow an arc, instead of skimming 3 feet above the water's surface while you try to do your thing.
As a weird aside, people beach about the wake to wake shuv indy, but some how I love that trick, and it's mainly because I think back to drew mc guckin and him saying that was one of the hardest things he'd done to date (that and a wake to wake body varial). Wakeskating has come so far, but I know that at one time some riders were so stoked to land that trick because it was a big deal. So from a nostalgic point of view, I'll probably always appreciate that trick.
/malarky _________________ *The opinions expressed are on my behalf and not those of wakeskating.com* |
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wakemitch Frontside Bigspin

Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 5946 City: Yay Area
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Posted: Aug 24, 2009 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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i love grubbs riding. he has a sick style and does what he does really well.
the go big or go home thing is something i hear a lot out where i live. All the wakeboarders also ride motocross and wear their skin flat bill hats and a jersey. |
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Jimmy T Backside 180


Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 525
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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| mojo wrote: | | who cares. there will be another awards deal next year for everyone to beach about. whoever did that w2w 3 flip on here is sick |
Kyle Kearns. Kills it. _________________
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-LoGiK- Kickflip


Joined: 22 Sep 2005 Posts: 2747 City: Orlando
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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 8:24 am Post subject: |
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electricsnow, No one would be bitching about grubb's riding if he didn't just win an award for it. We don't care if he goes out and rides boat and does crazy tricks on it, good for him hopefully he will be the first to land a ts 3 shuv to indy. However right now wakeskating has taken a major turn just like it did back with cassette. Back in the day when cassette took off in a different direction they were awarded for it. This year grubb is still pushing the boat which is a quickly dying breed as jordan pointed out to us. 6 riders at wakestock this year...sounds like a joke to me. Back in the day everyone wanted to see tony hawk do a 900 on a vert, now everyone would rather see chris cole do a back 270 to blunt. Im pretty sure the same thing is happening to wakeskating......even though there are some that like to shred the w2w there are more who are pushing the "street" aspect of wakeskating.
You keep standing up for grubb and his riding but no one is hating on him really, just saying that andrew should have won this year. Thats all. _________________ www.jimizwakenskate.com
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Fear Pop Shuvit

Joined: 01 Jan 2008 Posts: 246 City: Orlando,(metro west)
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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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god bless america cuzz im still searching for the american dream ahahahahhahahahahah  _________________
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electricsnow cassette

Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton
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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know. One thing to consider about contests is it's also expensive to travel to those events, and most riders can't really justify going when they're not going to get anything back. There are dudes that will ride at the toe jam boat event but not at any of the other main events that are outside of orlando. The obscura dudes just got their team boat thing, but they don't go to any of the big boat events i've mentioned. But as you've basically said, the accessibility factor is different with wakeskating, and with things like PWCs and winches, different kids are getting involved, which was the whole point of that anyway.
One last thing is I was confused with the reed hansen and george daniels thing on the voting ballot, and the only thing I can get out of it was it was a typo and should have read "first breath" instead of "fun boots."
And people were hating on grubb's riding by saying his sections don't change, his riding hasn't changed, grubb just does shuv indy's, blah blah blah. It's there to read... _________________ *The opinions expressed are on my behalf and not those of wakeskating.com* |
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Mario C. Backside 180


Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Posts: 689 City: DEEEETROIT
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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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In my opinion, the boat is a dying breed. If we really want to progress the sport, the winch/rails/cable are the way. They are the only true affordable ways to wakeskate. Which is why I have respect for the people pushing that aspect of our sport, because it is the future. One of my good friends is a sick skateboarder and after seeing Andy's part in Fun Boots! he said and I quote, " That kid rides that thing like its a skateboard ". After seeing that, he actually wanted to go wakeskate with me and see what it was about. I doubt he would have the same feeling if most of the riding was wake to wake tricks in exotic locations.
But what do I know, I'm just some kid on the intarweb that likes to wakeskate.  |
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knox Kickflip


Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 4693 City: Gainesville
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Posted: Aug 25, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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For the decision of video part of the year, I only have this to say.
Could Andy P. land the tricks that Grubb landed in Out of the Pond? I think he could.
Could Grubb land the tricks that Andy P. landed in Fun Boots? I doubt it.
However, video parts are not just the tricks landed, it is the editing, the music, the filming, the locations, and the feel. I have not seen Out of the Pond, but I am willing to bet Grubb's part is sick as hell. The video part of the year is not won by the rider, but several people including the rider, filmer, editer, ect. I would like to think the best riding overall would win, but it's a team effort in a video part. I really don't know if I'm getting my point across at all, but oh well... |
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wattsbutter Frontside 180

Joined: 02 Jul 2008 Posts: 282 City: knoxville
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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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| watch volume six im not impressed by andy p's riding but very impressed with fun boots but grubb has been killing it in vid parts for years!!! andy has just start to make his tricks look good |
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mojo Backside 180


Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 2240 City: mob town
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Posted: Aug 26, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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i like riding boat the most. one reason being is that i don't have a jet ski. another being is that being able to go out with a group of friends and have fun in a different environment than land is fun. another reason is that when you ride behind a wake boat you can do w2w, flats, i/o, lip, and re-entry stuff all in the same set. don't take the wake out of wakeskating. like i said it's just going to evolve into sub sets of our sub culture. cable is going to be king over all other forms of riding though in the future. _________________ "I said take me to the sea, cause that is where I want to be. I said take me to the sea and let my mother bury me." Buck-0-Nine |
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