yoke winch company. new!

ben we came to wakeskate · Pop Shuvit Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 190 City: nahunta

here are the pics i said i would get you guys!

Toxis · Posted: Jan 30, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject:

CLEAN! I like it. Any word yet on pricing or availability??

YaBro · Backside 180 Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 624

needs a spray guard over the spool!

looks fresh tho...

mojo · Posted: Jan 31, 2009 4:14 pm Post subject:

how is the engine mounted? hopefully so that you can just grab a socket wrench and slide it back or forward to adjust the chain tension. i still want to know what the gear ratio is, spool measurements...

RedLine Whiine · Posted: Feb 02, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject:

YaBro · Backside 180 Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 624

damn 3200! not alot of materials for that price.

i dont know much about it tho....

why so much?

mojo · Posted: Feb 02, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject:

if that's the price it's up there for sure. i paid 2k for mine w/ 1000' dyneema 2 years ago. granted that has a 9hp and i have a 6.5hp. the ease of use and performance will justify the price if they are good, but in these tough times it sounds like alot.

YaBro · Backside 180 Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 624

well, not tryin to spam,

its 3200, without shipping i assume? is there a releasing spool? hydralic brake? easy access to adjust the tension of the chain?

just sayin, i love the shape tho. it just doesn't look like its worth 3200, isnt the grinch frame like lazer cut from a cnc? and its cheaper...?

sorry, im not hating at all, im just curious i guess. sorry if people take any offense....

ugly · Ollie Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 57

Looks like a nice setup. 3200 doesnt seem all that unreasonable to me. Think about it for a min. Build cost is probably about ~1500 bucks w/ aluminum, tav, big motor, and other stuff. Aluminum is hard to weld.

It's typical for things to retail at twice the manufacturing cost - especially if dealers get involved, so to me it makes sense. Also, you have to consider that it is being built by a company, not some garage hack. (hopefully not) Businesses also have other overhead to take care of outside of product cost. Cant really compare it to the Grinch because of the different build materials and engines.... I'd say its a fair price.

YaBro · Backside 180 Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 624

ugly, you have a very good point. I'm just stating my opinions based on my previous winches and experiences. Too each his own...

I compared to the grinch because it is in the same market as a winch and its a steep price very similar to a Grinch.

to be honest, it doesnt prob more than a G to build that sucker at most, just not enough material on it, including the engine. I could be wrong though. Just my opinion coming from a decked out pulldozer perspective...

JeffKnox · Posted: Feb 03, 2009 12:53 pm Post subject:

its definately over priced.... in this small of a market it will be very hard to sell such a low model winch for that much.... i understand the hive being expensive due to all the features and the quality of pull.... but a winch designed like that is merely a regular winch.... price should be around 1500...

i mean released when it was around was all aluminum, 9 horse engine, and had a cnc spool which was releasing that sold for a bit more than 1600....

this is double the price and dosnt have as many advantages..

i agree with oury.... seems like it should be ballin for that price

mojo · Posted: Feb 03, 2009 1:17 pm Post subject:

well released engines were 6.5hp w/ a stage 1 kit to make it 9hp. same difference

mojo · Posted: Feb 03, 2009 1:37 pm Post subject:

released..notice the slits behind the engine. under that are two lugs that can be easily adjust to add or lessen chain tension, adjustable spool, total weight about 110lbs, 58t sprocket, aluminum frame, hitch mount, not sure about the tav teeth. with 1000' dyneema $2000.00 shipped. if i were selling winches i would post information like this to get people interested.

ugly · Ollie Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 57

Knox, $1500 would be a givaway imo. This may be an ignorant statement as I havnt researched much about Released, but this could possibly be why they got out of the winchin biz. (if thats the case)...because everyone thinks they can make a superior winch on their own for $500. Some people can and others cant.

Materials and parts alone including accessories like a rope, handle, brake, and wheels add up to like a grand or more; if you actually have to buy stuff and dont find scrap metal or a motor off something in your garage, it all adds up. A 9hp HONDA is like 6 hundo alone.

I think the Grinch has proven the price point (2K-3K) of what it takes to stay around and if Yoke, Neveride, Pulldozer or if anyone else enters the market consumers should be willing to pay for a well built, well thoughtout, fully functional, hassel free, complete product.

If Yoke has priced their product for slightly more than a Grinch then they must have factored in having a competitive advantage somewhere...either engine size, frame structure, wieght, or some other feature...whatever it is...they have priced it where they want to compete, which looks to be a fair price for the market of professionally built winches.

Neverride NR1: 2750 Euro. (2750 Euros = $3,577.475 U.S. dollars 2/3/09)
Yoke: 3100 <-Verified.
Grinch: 2694
PullDozer: 1800

Look at boats for instance...they all accomplish the same thing, but some have different designs, features and accessories, and they are all priced where they want to compete in the market. Could you build a wake boat for less than $50k on your own? Probably, but its a pain in the @ss, so people pay a premium for a finished product.

.02 for u. Very Happy

-btw...im not affiliated w/ any winch company, just a business guy.

JeffKnox · Posted: Feb 03, 2009 8:05 pm Post subject:

ugly, released didnt get out of the business because of money.... my point with released was a good reliable winch can be made for a decent price.... they offered premium products for a reasonable price. when i see another company that makes a winch with about the same features for double the price i call shenanigans.

if i was not in college i could easily make winches for people for well under 2 k and still make a decent profit....

i have nothing against yoke or any other company.... i just think if i am going to fork over that cash i would want a product that is seriously superior.... like the hive....

the grinch, the pull dozer, the released winch, the black box, the NEW winch.... they are all in the same class.... with nearly the same features.... imo the released was the highest of this class due to the releasing spool and weight .... and they were still the most affordable...

i dunno ive been around winching for a long time now ... so my opinion is a bit skewed... if you want to pay that much go for it... ill just build one in a week for a tenth of the price

lake weir ocala FL · Backside 180 Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 1241 City: Ocala

JeffKnox · Posted: Feb 04, 2009 2:24 am Post subject:

lake weir ocala FL, jordan i know your not calling me out... give me a tenth of the price yoke is charging, and i will build you a winch in a week.... especially right now cause i have full access to the engineering machine shop at UF (even though i said i could do it after college)

boom roasted

RedLine Whiine · Posted: Feb 04, 2009 9:59 am Post subject:

Fryguy · Posted: Feb 04, 2009 10:32 am Post subject:

Montgomery · Backside 180 Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 976 City: Rogers

I thought Bullet Lines basically took over what Released was doing or am I completely wrong on that ?