Super Stoked on winching.. Need line advice

pdxmonkeyboy · Faceplant Joined: 11 Oct 2008 Posts: 7

Hey there,
totally new to the forum but a bunch of my kiteboard friends and I have been using a friends grinch to hit rails and booters and have decided to make our own winch.

All the parts have been ordered except for the line..

I've read a ton of posts and some people like the 7/64 amsteel while others swear by the bulletline. I think we are leaning towards 1/8 amsteel for a little more nick resistance.

What are people using and what are they happy with. 7/64 seems really thin. We will be using the winch mostly at the beach (fresh water beach).

Like to keep the costs down somehwat so i can buy some hopups for the honda Smile

LFArmada · Backside 180 Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 631 City: tucson

1/64 of an inch is hardly anything to stress about. The reason you hear so much about those two lines is because they are the best. Choose one of those and you will be fine.

JeffKnox · Posted: Oct 15, 2008 10:09 am Post subject:

just so you know beach winching is very hard on both your winch and your line....

i dont like the coating on bullet line but i also have seen line deteriorate at the beach relatively quickly.... now you just have to decide if the price of the bullet line is worth the improvement of quality

either one will work.... imo uncoated rope pulls better but bullet line lasts longer

(i have gone thru many lines)

cjbecker · Posted: Oct 15, 2008 10:17 am Post subject:

JeffKnox, why do you feel that uncloated lines pull better.

JeffKnox · Posted: Oct 15, 2008 10:19 am Post subject:

experience

cjbecker · Posted: Oct 15, 2008 10:23 am Post subject:

i am looking for examples for why it feels better to have uncoated lines. is it a smoother pull or?

JeffKnox · Posted: Oct 15, 2008 10:28 am Post subject:

the coating tends to catch and release on the fairlead giving you a inconsistent pull... especially at the beach cause of the sand and salt...

without the coating it tends to slide much smoother cause of the direction of the threads.... when going down gaps and such having a good pull seems to help alot

Craig · Faceplant Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 46

skatewake41, much smoother pull. i have cut the coating off numerous bullet lines bec the pull is so inconsistent and it only gets worse the more u use and abuse your line. plus it makes the line heavier so it gets caught in the weeds easier and makes it harder to get the line up and out of the water on longer pulls.

cjbecker · Posted: Oct 15, 2008 11:10 am Post subject:

do you feel that the rope will last as long with out the coating. My bulletline is cut in one place but i taped it back together, i am thinking about taking it off.

cjbecker · Posted: Oct 15, 2008 11:11 am Post subject:

Craig, i have that problem on long pulls.

Craig · Faceplant Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 46

skatewake41, i have had the same uncoated bullet line for a long time now with zero problems. of course stripping the coating off does make the line less durable. If you decide to take the coating off your line make sure u have lots of free time and a buddy to help you. if you need some pointers let me know.

cjbecker · Posted: Oct 16, 2008 10:18 am Post subject:

i took the coating off last night with a razor blade and it took like 1 hour and i am going to ride it today and see if it was worth it.

cjbecker · Posted: Oct 18, 2008 8:54 am Post subject:

i just rode with the coating off my bulletline and it is a lot better. now i am getting a new engine i am going to get the honda 9 hp, i am getting the electric start because i dad will split it with me if i do.