2005 byerly 107

funnyfeni · Posted: Aug 24, 2004 3:55 pm Post subject: 2005 byerly 107

i have'nt been on here in awhile so i dont know if you guys have already talked about it but i notice this like metal piece thing on the board. its in the new wakeboard mag with the pics of all the new boards and on the bottom is a metal peice thingy. it looks like for locking in but it would be a beach to hit a rail 5050 with it. so check it out, its like in the front of the mag. and im wondering are they putting the gate out for next year or did they discontinue it?

Parky · Guest

funnyfeni, go to the topic, "rip off of the 4-trac"

nick · Posted: Aug 24, 2004 4:03 pm Post subject:

the gates called the karma now

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

Yeah feni, it's their board for nose/tail sliding. I was thinking about it, and I really like the idea of durability, but the concept of one metal block type thing for nosesliding isn't super practical. For one, (as you said) you really can't 50-50 with that thing. It also seems like it would have a lot of drag, and it could catch if you were doing some on-the-wake manuevers.

So I kind of like the idea, but I think they need to tool around with it in order to make it a bit more practical.

Catalyst · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 736 City: Kelowna

yeah but you gotta think to when ur gonna attatch that fin your basically just gonna be nosesliding. Like with the fourtrack im pretty sure you wouldnt be riding two fins in one side just for fun . Its a good idea but its not the best. Like all ideas the first attempts are never perfect just wait awhile and all your prayers will be answered.

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

Yeah, I realize that. But I like the idea of versatility better, and I just don't like the idea of adding on a piece of equipment to a board in order to do one trick. And like I said, I don't know how good it is for just straight riding--and I don't mean serious riding, just little transitional jobbies until you get back to the rail (or whatever).

I want to know how the board rides backwards with that block thing (mainly for tailsliding).

THe one thing I like about the 4-trac fins is that they are multi-functional, and you don't have to stick strictly to nose slides for them. Granted, nose/tail slides were the main idea, but they were also promoting 50-50's and whatever else. I guess the main point is that the gap in between the middle of the deck is (in my mind) the way to go. Now they just need to make some better fins.

And don't take this the wrong way, but I'm not saying any prayers for hyperlite...haaaaaa...

TTUFAN24 · Posted: Aug 25, 2004 9:43 am Post subject:

I RIDE A HYPERLITE AND I THINK IT'S GHEY

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

all the new hypes ( except the scape and phriction ) have the gay fin on them, I agree with electricsnow, versatility is key, the chunk fin is too specialized, and besides it's hydrodynamically a crappy idea, on top of being a half assed attempt to steal cassette's thunder IMO ( to bad they didn't know about the bi-level HA )

Edit: Truth be told though, Ill probably get the karma 105..... ok eveybody laugh at me now.... I really like the gate shape, I might be the only one but nonetheless.

gorath112 · Posted: Aug 29, 2004 12:25 pm Post subject:

listen i talked to BT and Scott about the new boards and they the fin works just fine, they it is made out of the same material as skate trucks indestructible, not cheap fiberglass ones, i really thinkscott, brandon, and grubb, know what they are doing for 2005, they were all so stoked on all their new stuff it was really cool

el · Backside 180 Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 1739 City: The Sea

Skate trucks are very destructable, aluminum weakens under stress over time. Sorry, just had to say that. Carry on...

nick · Posted: Aug 29, 2004 5:35 pm Post subject:

think aluminum can, crushing under light pressure... just a little thicker

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10756 City: Jefferton

The point wasn't about destructablity, it was about versatilty and drag. Someone told us awhile back that the point of this new "fin" was to be able to noseslide, but not have the jobby break. And I like the idea of having something really strong like that, but it doesn't seem versatile. I'll leave now, but I think kampus has the right idea...or they have for awhile now...

wakesk8r9610 · Backside 180 Joined: 23 Sep 2003 Posts: 1267

el, but most of the time there destructble from grinding concrete wakeskaters dont.

Martinsen46 · Ollie Joined: 15 Aug 2004 Posts: 61

the only way drag would effect it if you were sliding sideways or grinding the wake. its not just a solid block. it is the out line of a block and the water flows through allowing you to control it similar to a jetski nozzle(without as much power of course Laughing

). and hydrodynamicly speaking, it would cut through the water without little if any drag, until you turn sideways. i agree that hyperlite should work on making it not versitial(sp).

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

ditto on electricsnow's comment, Martinsen46, the flat surface that connects the two vertical planes will cause drag on ollies, think about water flowing through that tunnell and then trying to lift it straight out of the water, fins don't hinder ollies because there is no horizontal surface protruding to slow the upward motion of the board out of the water, sink your whole board under water as a horizontal surface then try to lift it straight up, then orient it vertically and try again then tell me which was easier (indicating which one had less drag).

el · Backside 180 Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 1739 City: The Sea

wakesk8r9610, I'm talking about just breaking under impact stress, grinding doesn't do that much besides scratch into them a bit. Just landing on them enough will cause them to snap, any place is fair game.

Frye · Guest Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 3337

i broke my truck when i was doing stairs.