Who on here is Christian?

Steven M · Posted: Jun 13, 2007 10:51 pm Post subject:

deltarider, for those of us without a youth pastor would you care to answer those questions?

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

The only way any teaching has been pushed on me in any way is that i've always been taken to church on sundays, and i don't mind that. It's taught me a lot but there's a lot that i disagree with as well. I'm sort of with Nick in that i definitely wouldn't consider myself a christian, but am still very interested in learning what i can. That goes for all religions. I'd like to learn as much as i can about them, without actually being a part of a single one. I believe that what i can get most out of learning about the beliefs of others is more about moral virtue than about believing in a being or some sort of a god. I think that a lot of people are die-hard and religious about christianity and stuff like that because they are scared of not having a structurally "solid" religion to fall back on. I think what a lot of people lack is the realization that it's okay to not know exactly why we're here or whatever. I mean in the end i think it's pretty much impossible for a single religion to be just dead on, precisely correct. I mean there are religions based on some pretty ridiculous things. Not to offend anyone but the bible? It's pretty much a list of contradictions. Mostly made up of teachings of the past, some of which are just preposterous to some in this day and age. The Bible contains a lot of moral virtues and things that i agree with, but even more things that contradict those virtues, and offer teachings that, to me, are just... wow. Anyways i'm not gonna go too deep into all that stuff. I think that a lot of people just overconceptualize and overall care too much about all who or what to worship, how to pay homage, and all of that.

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Steven M, when I say 'youth pastor', I mean liquidstunts, because he is one.

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kyle13 · Posted: Jun 14, 2007 3:21 am Post subject:

kyle13 · Posted: Jun 14, 2007 3:38 am Post subject:

Slapdown, just curious, but what are some examples of contradictions? Some of the laws they lived by in the old testament were pretty wack but there are places in the Bible were those laws specifically end.

deltarider, you sound like an awesome kid, God has got great things planned for you. I would love to meet you if you ever visit Florida.

When it comes to "pushing beliefs on someone". I find this usually something people say when their own belief system is quesitoned and they are afraid they might be wrong. People have confronted me so many times telling me why what I believe is wrong and trying to prove me incorrect. Would they be pushing there beliefs on me? I think someone is "pushing beliefs" when they are trying to convince an unwilling party their beliefs are right and the parties belieifs are not. If you really believe something and someone trys to call you out it shouldnt bother you if you are confident in want you believe.

Even if I was pushing my beliefs on someone..how are you seriously gonna get all mad? I'll risk you feeling uncomforable for 15 seconds while you listend to what I said or read what I wrote, when it comes to that or a person spending an enternity in either heaven or hell.

When God opens a door to share I will jump at the oportunity every time. Theres a difference between that and openly and hypocritically judging someone, or embarrassing them or calling them out.

My goal is to live my life the best I can as a testimony of God's love and grace and share this whenver God opens the doors for me to do so. I would classify my Faith in Christ one where I put relationships over religion. Whether than make people do certain things to earn salvation and merely am there for people to show them God's gift He's made availble.

liquidstunts · Backside 180 Joined: 05 Feb 2007 Posts: 852

Slapdown · Kickflip Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Posts: 4240 City: Austin

kyle13, Honestly i'd rather not get into the details of that on the forums. For a few reasons. One being i'm not here to call anyone out or prove them wrong. Another being i think it's been discussed in a thread from quite a while ago. The Bible is all about interpretations, however, and by no means do i think it's stupid or anything to be a follower of it's teachings. I know that by my interpretation, The Bible is just too much to follow. I like to keep it pretty simple. I believe what i believe and a book isn't going to change any of that, or complicate it.

PIRATE · Kickflip Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2651

PIRATE · Kickflip Joined: 11 Jul 2006 Posts: 2651

liquidstunts, did you get it ? try and listen to the Life's Toughest questions podcast or the Beuty one.... There both really good.

Also ANyone who's interested get on I tunes and under podcast, search for Erwin McManus, There should be a podcast called life's toughest questions, it has people and scholars from all around the world asking questions to this guy and he really does a excellent job of giving great answers, Even if you dont believe in any of this its still a very interesting sermon..... As we'll as the sermon called "beuty"

Mr. Top Hat · Dead Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 5818

Gnarly Dancer 42 · 360 flip Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 5121 City: kalamazoo

Mr. Top Hat, well its not like if you were buddist you would say that christianity is correct too

nick · Posted: Jun 14, 2007 11:32 am Post subject:

Actually Buddhists are very open to other religions and allow for the celebrations of other religions accepting that you don't have to sit in silent pretense of righteousness while others are celebrating, just go enjoy yo self.

Gnarly Dancer 42 · 360 flip Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 5121 City: kalamazoo

che blanc, well think about it, you cant believe in two religons that totaly contratdict each other, no matter what they are

nick · Posted: Jun 14, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject:

Which is why I belong to no religion. None are fully correct in their doctrine, and all contradict themselves and each other.

And it is the nature of Christianity, due to it's struggled beginnings, to feel persecuted and automatically in conflict with other religions. In reality, most religions are very similar, but the cultures that reflect them are not.

Jonah 1:12 · Faceplant Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 44 City: Cedar Park

Christianity (n.) The Christian religion, founded on the life and teachings of Jesus .
Why do Mormons call themselves Christians when their religion was founded on the
life and teachings of Joseph Smith?

They should be called Smithians.

CGA PFD · Posted: Jun 14, 2007 3:06 pm Post subject:

I've got nipples... Can you milk me, greg?

Jonah 1:12 · Faceplant Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 44 City: Cedar Park

che blanc, it sounds like you study religion.
When and where was Christianity founded?

Jonah 1:12 · Faceplant Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 44 City: Cedar Park

We all have nipples, but did Adam and Eve have belly buttons?