Grubb Leaves Hyperlite !!!

Joey White · Pop Shuvit Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 172 City: Phoenix

umm actually without brian grubb, and scott byerly most people would not know what wakeskating is and with grubb having a part of pretty much any video that has been made in the last couple years so that has totally progressed the sport of wakeskating and them riding for hyperlite means they are part of hyperlite. so that answers your question. also what has integrity done in wakeskating. also this is kind of off the subject but it does matter how good are you and grouch at wakeskating, becuase this would tell me something about you saying the boards are legit.

Catalyst · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 736 City: Kelowna

yeah and its obviouse the cassette huys have respect for hyperlite and there riders or byerly wouldnt cameo in horrells part of sfumato and you wouldnt see them together in movies hitting the same rails together at someones house. Oh yeah and there not mini wakeboards there legit skates. Wood r and d takes way to much time just look at all the crap that happens to cassettes with warping and bubbling. They wear down way fast when u hit rails on em and they cant even keep there paint job. Hyperlites wakeskates last long are 100 percent durable and yes keep the pretty little pictures most people judge there buying on. Also ih hyperlite wakeskates are mini wakeboards because there compresion molded what do u call the scapes?

RUSSIAN · Posted: Apr 05, 2004 11:11 pm Post subject:

Um no it doesn't. what grubb and byerly do on their decks really has nothing to do with Hyperlite as a company and how much they care about wakeskating. It's my opinion that sfumato and linear perspective have done far more for the recent progression of the sport then any section scott or brian have had in a wakeboarding video. Like I said earlier, the riders definatly care and I presume that paul o'brien cares, but the people that pay the bills could probably give a rats ass. the same cannot be said about Thomas and cassete, and it's definatly not true with Integrity.
Support rider owned companies.

Wakeskating has a chance to become what wakeboarding could not. Why do so many not care? Why do so many want to see it fall in the same hollow abyss?

I cannot speak of Grouch's riding ability(I have heard good things though) I consider myself an ok rider, but I have ridden enough decks to know what is legit and what is $hit

RUSSIAN · Posted: Apr 05, 2004 11:18 pm Post subject:

Catalyst, Thomas has respect for Byerly, not Hyperlite. You need to check out Decline, I believe sidewayz is selling it as a combo dvd with linear now.
FWIW, although wood decks have a better feel, I don't think they have much of a future(although my 01' flat deck is still going strong after 3 years), but compression molded decks are 12 year old technology. How is that pushing the progression of the sport?????????

Catalyst · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 736 City: Kelowna

i have never said once cassette is a bad company or any rider owned company is garbage. Look at gb that shizzle is so hot right now haha. Im all for supporting rider owned and operated companys infact i think my next purchase is gonna be a cassette. Im just saying you cant just single out a not rider owned company especially hyperlite they have done tons in this industry and im prety sure if scott didnt like hyperlite stuff he wouldnt be there, nor would brian. Not everyone is money hungry fiends. This isnt even worth arguing anymore youl probably never admit your wrong and in your mind i will never admit im wrong so lets stop this rambling and show respect for everyones opinion, neither one of us actually personaly knows any of the pros to know what exactly goes on behind the scenes so basically are argument may be 100 percent invalid. So enough with this nonsense.

RUSSIAN · Posted: Apr 06, 2004 12:43 am Post subject:

Catalyst, I said in the begining that I respect your opinion and I'm glad you are not afraid to voice it. I have asked a few questions in my previous posts that I feel have yet to be really answered(I'm not calling you out, Any response would be great). I'm not trying to single out a non rider owned company, that's not what this is about. This is about how everyone claims that hype has done so much for this industry, pushing the sport etc etc..... When that's bs they have done nothing that did not directly involve their pocket book.
What has Hyperlite really done for the wakeskate industry??????
Here is another way to look at it. Thomas, Erich, and even Don wallace have come on this site on more then one occasion(for various reasons). When was the last time you saw anyone from Hype come on this site(or wakeboarder for that matter) even if it was to tell me I'm an idiot it would be better then nothing right. I know Erich would respond, and Thomas probably would respond if I were to ask him a question.

I'm just trying to get people to think more. I don't want to see wakeskating follow in the footsteps of wakeboarding.

Passion is what drives us, when there is no passion then what's left????

Admit to being wrong, thats not in my vocabulary.............. Twisted Evil

SCBrips · Posted: Apr 06, 2004 12:56 am Post subject:

Like RUSSIAN already said, Thomas has no respect for hype. His respect is for Byerly. Many of us feel the same way. Thomas would rather be a janitor than ride for hype.

Some of you have asked what Integrity has done for wakeskating. Do you know who owns Integrity? Erich Schmaltz. Erick f*cking Schmaltz! Forefather, innovator, trailblazer... there's an endless list of adjectives that could be used to describe the man. Integrity is a committed group of individuals that has a vision and passion that we want share.

When the new decks drop, you'll see what it's all about. I've got one of the "pre-cursors" sitting in my room, and let me tell you; it's the f*cking sh*t!

Contribution is measured by innovation and motivation, not marketing and commodities.

RUSSIAN · Posted: Apr 06, 2004 1:01 am Post subject:

"Contribution is measured by innovation and motivation, not marketing and commodities" very well said!!

Josh · Posted: Apr 06, 2004 9:55 am Post subject:

Decline - Hyperlite Car crush... No more needs to be said

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10751 City: Jefferton

One other thing about schmaltz is that he has been involved with wakeskating as long as anyone, and he's done things that you will never know about. His companies may have dropped within the past two years, but he's been working on this stuff a lot longer than that. Plus, one admirable quality that I think is worth mentioning is the fact that when he wanted to drop his skates, he wanted to make sure that he had something completely different from anyone else. When you think about it, not many companies can say that.

And you know, nowadays wakeboard companies like to claim "JIb bases!!!" but from what I can tell, mutiny was the first company to actually have a jib base (circa 1998) which seemed ahead of its time if companies just started to do that about two years ago (and they still couldn't fine tune it). Anyway, the point is that erich is one of those people that are genuine and insightful. He's just a good person to put your money on if you want a good skate...

minus_gravity · Pop Shuvit Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 205 City: Dalton

its the person behind the company that makes me look at the company...If they have a product that I deem quality then I am sold, I will ride that board with pride. I have never been able to put a face with Hyperlite, other than the pro riders. The pro riders are just that, riders, they may have their hands in development, but they are not the company.

Grouch · Kickflip Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 3146 City: The OC

Schmaltz:

HE'S NOT NEW TO THIS, HE'S TRUE TO THIS!

Grouch · Kickflip Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 3146 City: The OC

This petty arguing is so ridiculious.

Wait until you see/ride the skates, than you can do all the judging you want. Rolling Eyes

Catalyst · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 736 City: Kelowna

whan did anyone say erich has done nothing? And when did anyone say there boards were gonna suck. I have never met erich but i know he had a hand n decline and that was one of the best movies ever put out so i know hes gotta something going on and im sure his wakeskates will be good considering half the people on this site swear buy em and they havent even been released yet. but whatever i think hype has done alot for the sport and it more than likly did benifit them but its a fair trade. Sorta like you scrath my bike ill scrath yours, but keep in mind alot of there stuff is free to do, ie backyard tour (hyperlite plays a huge roll in that and its free) they dont ask for anything in return. But this id gettting dumb so i leave with this integrity will be good, thomas has done tons, hyperlite has done tons the pros have done tons. There are alot of poeple involved in this sport and i think they all deserve props.

minus_gravity · Pop Shuvit Joined: 17 Mar 2004 Posts: 205 City: Dalton

Catalyst, I can live peacefully with that post and I resecpt everything you said in it. Basicaly it all comes down to the fact that we are all out wakeskating no matter what board is under our feet.

Catalyst · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 736 City: Kelowna

exactly

suckmywake · Faceplant Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Posts: 25

okay, now that this is winding down, i need to address something that has bugged me for a while. People always quote thomas and erich as saying "we'd rather be forgotten than remembered for giving in." that was in fact a lyric in a refused song. (if you dont know who refused is, go out and buy "the shape of punk to come" and get blown away) dont get me wrong, im not trying to disrespect thomas or erich because ive looked up to them for years, but the recognition belongs to refused, who revolutionized hardcore like thomas and erich revolutionized wakeskating/wakeboarding. Whew! that feels better...

oh, and if thomas and erich really did come up with the line on their own and this is all one huge coincidence, well, im sorry and embarassed...

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10751 City: Jefferton

I'm pretty sure that saying was borrowed from that song...I think the song was used at the end of decline, but I can't remember and I don't feel like searching for it on a vhs. Erich might have had that song on his site for a while too...I can't remember anymore.

Catalyst · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Nov 2003 Posts: 736 City: Kelowna

its just a song and its just a qoute, they probably just liked that part of the song and thought it suited them

The Pavement 3.6 · Backside 180 Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 572 City: Eustis