Bi-Level OR Integrity

Cubby The Shiz · Pop Shuvit Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 169

alright well all this info really helps...sort of....there really is no way I can test ride a bi-lev or integ because there are no shops in MN that carry them so on that note I don't know what to do...and as far as where I wan't to take my riding is...I want to learn k flips this summer and get the pop I want for shuvs and big spins, so over all I want a board that will spin and flip easier than my 03 4 trac.

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10755 City: Jefferton

What exactly don't you like about your 03 4 trac? And since I don't know anything about your ability level, can you already do shoves and big spins?

Cubby The Shiz · Pop Shuvit Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 169

well I feel like its losing its pop and water on wood is taking its toll. yea i can do shuvs but what i want is more pop and "feel", its hard to explain but its not doing the trick for me anymore and ultimatly I want a new board.

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10755 City: Jefferton

Well, it's a tricky issue. Both boards will give you pop if you have the proper mechanics. If you don't mind that a board will wear down, the bi-level is a worthy choice, especially since they'll have replacement parts for the boards. If you're not interested in buying a board or anything for a few years, then the integrity would be the way to go.

I guess that's really all you have to think about at this point. It's a bummer you don't have any friends that have either of these boards because they're two completely different experiences, but sometimes that's how it goes. Ok, I'm done, I swear! Good luck, and I'm sure you'll get a fun board either way.

Cubby The Shiz · Pop Shuvit Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 169

alright well thanks you have helped a lot even though I still am torn between the two....actaully im leaning more toward the integ

electricsnow · cassette Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Posts: 10755 City: Jefferton

Cool. At least you were presented with some decent information and you were able to make a fairly educated decision (as educated as possible, without actually riding them). Later!

twenty7 · Posted: Jun 01, 2005 11:37 am Post subject:

electricsnow,

my second bi-lev was a replacement directly from cassette and supposed to be from the second batch...

its lasted longer than the first...its still going strong...but its showing beginning stages of delam.

warlock · Backside 180 Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 1503 City: AC

a bit off the subject but the lemons vs team deck- how much difference in the two??

skatepunk · Ollie Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 63

supposedly the outter material is the only difference, and you dont get the picture of lemmons and ryan doesnt get any $ from the team deck

rob wharton · Posted: Jun 04, 2005 4:59 pm Post subject:

I sold my Integ after a month because the "pre-kick" spots on the board were very akward, and when it spins, it goes like crazy, but the lightweight made re-entry landings and catching the board feel very squirrly, like it wasn't there. I am dying to get on a bi-level because of how I've heard the descriptions of the ride. It just seems like the dynamics and the design would make traditional ollies (like those on a skateboard) seem more plausible since the top deck rides above the water and your pop comes from a solid surface under the first deck which I imagine really would give you increased leverage and a better feel, because the shape is just the closest possible thing to an oversized skateboard, and personally, I see wakeskating as skateboarding on water.

gate-rider · Backside 180 Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 550

rob wharton, the Bi-Level is going to be much different then what you expect it to be it does not ride like an oversized skateboard because its ahs the flat bottom deck and it is wider, longer, extremyl heavy and the pop does not really make up for the weight and also it is more concave. its a board you pretty much eaither love or totaly dislike. also you can trealy ollie like a normal skateboard you might be able to allie a bit more like a skateboard then other decks but because youre actaully not snapping the tail and rising the nose alot you cant do it that much like a skateboard
You gotta ride it before you buy it cause you might, like i said, love it or dislike it

Cubby The Shiz · Pop Shuvit Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 169

how heavy are the bi's?

nick · Posted: Jun 05, 2005 11:54 am Post subject:

I believe they are 10 lbs...

Schimkat · Posted: Jun 05, 2005 1:11 pm Post subject:

skatepunk, how is the outer material on the lemmons different from the team's? is one a better material?

Morphine · Backside 180 Joined: 03 Jun 2004 Posts: 1207 City: 706omg

Nick's got it. they're exactly 10 lbs.

the outer material on lemons is durasurf, and used to make some snowboards. pbt is used in the team decks, and pbt is a little less durable, but still really strong.

maeyektx · Posted: Jun 05, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject:

i am SO ashamed to say that I think I may have started one of the many Integrity vs. Bi-Level threads Embarassed

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: Jun 05, 2005 9:27 pm Post subject:

maeyektx, ...yes...

nick · Posted: Jun 06, 2005 8:43 am Post subject:

maeyektx, No reason to be.

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: Jun 06, 2005 10:08 am Post subject:

maeyektx, go read my bi-levelreview if u still have questions in your head about it.

Paul · Posted: Jun 06, 2005 2:43 pm Post subject: