Presidential Debate

Guest · Posted: Oct 03, 2004 12:40 pm Post subject:

Todd,
You are spending a little to much time watching the liberal media and not enough time getting the true facts.

Did you get a tax cut? I did and trust me I am nowhere near the top 10% of earners in this country. Be honest!

If you think John Edwards will turn on his rich lawyer friends you are wrong. Why do you think people don't have healthcare in this country because of uncapped jury awards, insurance companies have to charge more for their services
http://www.cse.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=869

I am one that regrets any loss of life but untill harmony reigns supreme on the earth people will be killed in conflict. For comparison here is a casualty estimate for D-day.
http://www.warchronicle.com/numbers/WWII/ddaycasualtyest.htm

The president has not asked for a draft but the dems on capital hill have the opposite opinion.
http://www.hillnews.com/news/100703/draft.aspx

As far as your unemployment and deficit numbers the Dot Com burst and 9-11 has alot of influence but as I am well aware I won't convince you of that. You may want to review your candidates voting records before you make a final decision.

Todd · Posted: Oct 03, 2004 1:16 pm Post subject:

jd, you do have your points, no I did not get a tax cut I did get a check for $300 but my share of the record defict is not worth it.

I do not believe in settlement limits, people's mistakes need to be paid for.

People do not need to be saricifce in Iraq, it was an unneeded conflict, and it is not the USA's job is to police the world. Your D day piont is not valid to me, Nazi Germany is nothing like what Iraqi is now

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

Todd, Saddam Hussien is has committed just as many atrocities as Hitler if not more, the reason you don't hear about it is people don't want to know they are funding a evil lunatic dictator every time we fill our gas tanks, or lining their pockets with the food for oil program. No the war in Iraq was not about WMDs the truth of the matter was that WMDs was the door that was used to open the war, but it isn't all Bush's fault, Saddam Hussien refused UN inspectors access to areas suspected to be WMD manufacturing locations. at the time it appeared to ALL outside on lookers that he WAS trying to hide WMDs, little did we know that he was putting up a facade to conceal the fact that he didn't want his more powerful neighbors who also HATE and FEAR his regieme to know that he did not infact have WMDs as he was representing that he did, do I think it was the wrong descision, I DONT KNOW, I DONT HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE FACTS AND INTELLIGENCE AND IF YOU THINK THAT YOU DO YOU ARE A FOOL, facts alway have and always will be hidden from the public, and this thread is a good example why, people can't step out there own bias for one second to admit maybe they dont know everything, myself included.

The only truth in politics is that nobody agrees, like I said before it just depends on which set of spin tactics you belive. and the people who think that they are un biased are the dumbest group on here... there is no such thing as being un-biased

Todd · Posted: Oct 03, 2004 1:47 pm Post subject:

kento911, I know that I don't know all the facts, or claim to. But Bush acted in haste and rushed to force. He did not exhast his non-violent opions and I hold him to those mistakes.

Hitler was on the major offense and moving into and occupying many other countries. Saddam was not ( I know Kuwuit in 1992) on the offensive. He was an atrocious dictator, but so is over 30 other nations leaders. America is not who decides resigme changes.

Do you ever thing that the vast majority of the world thinks Bush is an aggressor in all of this. What happens if another "coalition of the willing" decides that Bush is a treat and to his own people and other nations, then they decides that America needs a resigme change and invades us?

Todd · Posted: Oct 03, 2004 2:14 pm Post subject:

PIRATE, by the way Libritarians are about as far RIGHT as you can get. Less government not more like the LEFT wants

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

Todd, none of those other dictators gave someone the opportunity to invade, or blantantly spat in the face of our anti terror policies just as a show of defiance and strength, don't get me wrong, almost every country in the region supports some sort of terror activities, but after afghan they decided to lay low guess their just smarter, and you tell me what non-violent action would have made saddam change his underwear let alone his policies toward the UN or anybody else for that matter; this is a man who kills his own family and advisors merely for not agreeing with him in totallity, I think it was a mistake that was avoidable with out a war, but there was really only one way, ignore it and leave the UN to deal with it, which they never would have, I mean look at their record so far. so I can see the logic for invading Iraq, although I agree that his motives weren't as advertised, but even the peoplel who support the war knew that was just a smoke screen, and besides name a politician who does exactly what he says, and I will vote for him.

kento911 · Kickflip Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Posts: 3657 City: Phoenix

I think we should all go to www.liquidgeneration.com and torture the candidate of our choice then we'll all be happy Smash

rukusrider103 · Backside 180 Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 961

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/sovereignty.mov

listen to bush trying to play this crap off... he knows nothing about that sooo funny.

The Pavement 3.6 · Backside 180 Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 572 City: Eustis

rukusrider103, that is very funny
The economy is up 3%, yay!

xboard32x · Posted: Oct 04, 2004 4:21 pm Post subject:

http://collegehumor.com/?movie_id=78871

Watch this clip on the debate. haha, its great.

Todd · Posted: Oct 04, 2004 5:51 pm Post subject:

The Pavement 3.6, up 3% form a 12% slide so it's still down 9%

YEAH