Zeitgeist: Addendum

[savagegarrick]

This part 2 people. Just got released. Watch and spread the word.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912

[TommyC]

Thank's for posting this.

[LFArmada]

I knewI hated america for some reason...this is it.

[DRAGON88]

These movies are hilarious, I just wish they would actually inspire people to go out and research on their own to check the validity of the arguments being made. Unfortunately most people take it as being "truth."

[LFArmada]

and all this research you did, what did you conclude?

[Le Jalapeno]

DRAGON88, THANK GOD!! I thought everybody was stupid enough to believe those outrageous claims. I watched the first one, and have no will whatsoever to watch the second.

I mean, I may as well be watching National Treasure and taking it as a documentary

[DRAGON88]

LFArmada, I didn't research it, because I have no interest in spending my time researching it.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, the first Zeitgeist movie was hilarious though, especially the thesis of a world government. Which is unlikely to happen due to the anarchic organization of states, and what it means for a state to have sovereignty. In order to understand it though you have to have somewhat of a basic understanding of international relations.

Most people like these movies because they play into what they want to hear, thus they never question the gospel, instead of researching the claims and arguments made by the directors.

[LFArmada]

i obviously know that every claim isnt true, most are verry farfetched. Still has a very intrigueing "what if" factor.

[urinal mint]

lord, more from these guys?

ha, i'll get around to watching it soon. always love these videos.

[LFArmada]

I wonder what their motivation is behind these movies

[Parker]

It's generally easy to tell what they say is BS and what isn't in these movies, I can however say this one is better than the first and argues some good points

[JeffKnox]

[savagegarrick]

I have rresearched these claims. not all, but many. And I have yet to come across one that I find evidence to prove otherwise. Just a gov't denial? not good enough. There is WAYYY too much secrecy in our country. Look up CNN or MSNBC or any other several news sites. Look up New world order and world government. Many of or past and current leaders use the terminology. All the money stuff... Obvious truth. Look it up. Listen to all the economists. Illegal immigration? It's ignored, eventually we'll just have to accept the illeagls. It seems almost too far out of control too stop. That combined with the world economy collapsing. Good time to dissolve north american borders. Why not? Our constitution? Bush and his administration have trampled that and done so many things in blatant violation. Might as well create a new one. The whole 9/11 thing? Come on people, open your eyes. It's no wonder the state of our country and world is the way it is with ignorant people just believing the masses. remember Rome? similar to the united states? Quite. I really wish I had never seen these movies or had my eyes opened to what was really going on, but... I often can"t sleep, I worry what I will see in the next few years ands what kind of world I have brought my children into. I have always felt something was off. I think most of us get that feeling. Problem is too many of us just bury it and say, Naaah.

[DRAGON88]

K lets talk about the money stuff.


Gold= finite resource

Economies= growing

Growing Economies= need more "money"

Thus we need to find more gold or we need to move onto a "floating currency."

If you want to believe it's some sort of global consipiracy, so be it.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[savagegarrick]

Gold is not the only resource to base money upon. It is just a very good starting point. If money is not backed by a tangible substance, it is worthless. Why don't you look into why we moved from the gold standard to begin with. It sure had nothing to do with it being a finite source.

[gregbockhold]

This just blew my mind.

[DRAGON88]

[taku]

A little history for you non-believers and pro-americans.

Qasim (ex-iraqi leader) took power in a popularly-backed coup in 1958, he certainly got recognized in Washington. He carried out such anti-American and anti-corporatist policies as starting the process of nationalizing foreign oil companies in Iraq, withdrawing Iraq from the US-initiated right-wing Baghdad Pact (which included another military-run, US-puppet state, i.e., Pakistan) and decriminalizing the Iraqi Communist Party. Despite these actions, and more likely because of them, he was Iraq's most popular leader. He had to go!

In 1959, there was a failed assassination attempt on Qasim. The failed assassin was none other than a young Saddam Hussein. In 1963, a CIA-organized coup did successfully assassinate Qasim and Saddam's Ba'ath Party came to power for the first time. Saddam returned from exile in Egypt and took up the key post as head of Iraq's secret service. The CIA then provided the new pliant, Iraqi regime with the names of thousands of "communists", and other leftist activists and organizers. Thousands of these supporters of Qasim and his policies were soon dead in a rampage of mass murder carried out by the CIA's close friends in Iraq.

Iraq is once again a target of US "regime change." Despite that, precious little is being said by the corporate media about how the CIA aided and abetted political assassination, regime change and mass murder, all in the name of putting Saddam's Ba'ath power into power for the first time in Iraq.

One thing is for sure, the US will find it much harder to remove the Ba'ath Party from power in Iraq than they did putting them in power back in 1963. If more people knew about this diabolical history, they just might not be so inclined to trust the US in its current efforts to execute "regime change" in Iraq.

Iraqis have always suspected that the 1963 military coup that set Saddam Husain on the road to absolute power had been masterminded by the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). New evidence just published reveals that the agency not only engineered the putsch but also supplied the list of people to be eliminated once power was secured--a monstrous stratagem that led to the decimation of Iraq's professional class.

The overthrow of president Abdul Karim Qasim on February 8, 1963 was not, of course, the first intervention in the region by the [CIA] agency, but it was the bloodiest--far bloodier than the coup it orchestrated in 1953 to restore the shah of Iran to power. Just how gory, and how deep the CIA's involvement in it, is demonstrated in a new book by Said Aburish, a writer on Arab political affairs.

The book, A Brutal Friendship: The West and the Arab Elite (1997), sets out the details not only of how the CIA closely controlled the planning stages but also how it played a central role in the subsequent purge of suspected leftists after the coup.

The author reckons that 5,000 were killed, giving the names of 600 of them--including many doctors, lawyers, teachers and professors who formed Iraq's educated elite. The massacre was carried out on the basis of death lists provided by the CIA.

The lists were compiled in CIA stations throughout the Middle East with the assistance of Iraqi exiles like Saddam, who was based in Egypt. An Egyptian intelligence officer, who obtained a good deal of his information from Saddam, helped the Cairo CIA station draw up its list. According to Aburish, however, the American agent who produced the longest list was William McHale, who operated under the cover of a news correspondent for the Beirut bureau of Time magazine.

The butchery began as soon as the lists reached Baghdad. No-one was spared. Even pregnant women and elderly men were killed. Some were tortured in front of their children. According to the author, Saddam who 'had rushed back to Iraq from exile in Cairo to join the victors, was personally involved in the torture of leftists in the separate detention centres for fellaheen [peasants] and the Muthaqafeen or educated classes.'

[JeffKnox]

taku just hit us with some knowledge lol

[savagegarrick]