Finally got it built but...

jsimpson7 · Ollie Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 54 City: Atlanta

So I finally got our winch built. (pictured below). However, our initial test run did not go so well.

Problem: When i begin to move the throttle lever towards the "rabbitt" (faster speed, more throttle), it begins to pull the rider, but by the time i am at full throttle, the engine dies.

I talked to my paaps who is good with this stuff and he suggested a couple things:
- the clutch is somehow too much for the engine, maybe take a spring out or something along those lines
-also suggested that it may be the govenor.

6.5 hp Engine
TAV 2 - 12 tooth
Sprocket up top is 72 tooth

Input needed.....please.

JB_CANSKATE · Posted: Oct 09, 2007 4:53 pm Post subject:

Is the engine brand new or used? Is it weak when it pulls or just dies at full throttle?

This site is good for troubleshooting engine and TAV problems: http://www.gokartsupply.com/trouble.htm

Its hard to say without seeing it but the combination of having your rope spool in at such a large angle and a larger sprocket could make it run slower.

Raven · Posted: Oct 09, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject:

that spool is hot, simple and basic yet defined. You're dirty.

dalesk8 · Backside 180 Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 719 City: South OZ

looks awesome. are you going to paint the frame.

JeffKnox · Posted: Oct 09, 2007 5:50 pm Post subject:

how big is your inner diameter of the spool... you might be puttin too much force on the engine....

also is the spool winding up from the bottom of the spool?

price.dan · Backside 180 Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 1404 City: Regina

where did you get that spool? i like

jsimpson7 · Ollie Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 54 City: Atlanta

engine is brand new. It just dies when i give it full throttle.

The spool came from Northern Tool and it is a "hose reel for a commercial hose". That is 600ft on the spool.

Jeff - Inner diameter is 6". Yes, the rope is coming in from bottom.

ps - we are painting the frame Laughing

DVSKATE · Backside 180 Joined: 19 Mar 2007 Posts: 654 City: IL

make the rope come from the top of the spool....p.s-you shoulda bought a real honda Smash

jsimpson7 · Ollie Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 54 City: Atlanta

Well atleast it is a engine. It is strong enough.

The rope comes in from the bottom because of the TAV > The TAV would not mount in the "normal" position. So we had to rotate it 180 degrees, thus causing the TAV to spin in that direction.

i.e. - the rope will not come in from the top.

Also, when we tried it today. My truck was parked at a steep angle, so there wasn't that much pressure, or difference in angle, of the rope in relation to the rope guide.

Hope that makes sense...

JeffKnox · Posted: Oct 09, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject:

jsimpson7, yea all tavs dont fit right at first... but you really dont want the tav sittin like that... flip is around and grind down the back alittle bit until it fits... then you can wind it up from the top... as for the spool... generally you want something alittle bigger for a inner diameter (7 or 8 in)... especially since your only runnin a 6.5 hp engine ...

flipping the engine around should take alot of load from the engine... is that a 72 tooth sprocket?

i have a feeling its an engine malfunction though... although the aboved mentioned will help i doubt it is the root cause... i would say you need to break in your engine more... try letting it idle and warm up a while and then change the oil... new engines tend to take a while to break in and run at full capacity... after you break it in and change the oil lemme know if it runs any better

JB_CANSKATE · Posted: Oct 09, 2007 9:02 pm Post subject:

Maybe thats the problem. One time I was running my winch on an angle that wasn't too bad I thought but it was dying. Does it do the same on level ground?

Grind the tav down on the "supports" where its needed and make it fit the other way so it spools in the from the top. You'll deffinately notice a difference in Power one you get the engine running properly I think.

You might need a water shield in front of the engine and driver if you do it that way tho judging by the pics.

JB_CANSKATE · Posted: Oct 09, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject:

JeffKnox, Your quick

coricluster · Backside 180 Joined: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 1826 City: berlin

jsimpson7, ill tell u something that may sound stupid, but my engine would do the same thing if i was parked on a really big incline or decline. try to park the truck on a flat surface and try again that may help

JeffKnox · Posted: Oct 09, 2007 9:35 pm Post subject:

JB_CANSKATE, Twisted Evil

i win

tad · 360 flip Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 5031

jsimpson7, ill try to take a picture of mine tonight or tomorrow to show you what they are talking about.. i have a similar set up..

tad · 360 flip Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 5031

hard to get the camera down in there..

JeffKnox · Posted: Oct 09, 2007 10:31 pm Post subject:

TAD, is that the best you can do? Mad

tad · 360 flip Joined: 07 May 2006 Posts: 5031

JeffKnox, haha sorry I dont have a dinky camera. It's too big to get in there. .

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"thats what she said."

i love the office.

hey man just cut one of those peices! see where it's all shiny! grind that sucker down!

jsimpson7 · Ollie Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 54 City: Atlanta

kool. several things to work with here.

Thanks. Will let you know how it goes.

-=AlexXx=- · Posted: Oct 10, 2007 9:54 am Post subject:

SICK spool.