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PostPosted: May 20, 2005 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun Murray would beg to differ, I dont belive shizzle corpos say, but Murray aint the take other peoples ideas and lie type at least from the select few times Ive met him in passing.
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PostPosted: May 20, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

robert wrote: if HL asks Nick to be a member of their team he should say no. But i think he would say yes, and all his opinions are blown away.

are you serious? nick is on integirty, and guess what? he has integrity... and respect...and values. he wouldent ride a hyperlite skate ever in my opinion, for whatever amount of money.

its hard to bealive but not everyone in the world is a sell out.... some people would actaully be pore than take the high rode of money and fame if it conflicts with what the belaive in......

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i know thats what you would say...... someone needs to tell us what needs to be done.... and you are the man to do it.... ohh i agree Razz
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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, this got far off topic. Anyways, I guess that you'll have your hardcore ROC guys and the corp guys, and they will have their differences. THis really isn't going anywhere. The integ guys can keep saying what they want about big companies or how crappy their products are, but its not changing our minds. Seriously, just let everybody ride what they like, were all wakeskating here. Electricsnow is a big breath of fresh air because hes the only one not blowing things out of proportion. Otherwise, this whole forum would be constant bashing and wouldnt even be worth looking at. I respect the ROC guys because they are wakeskaters, but since i have a hyperlite we shouldn't have to get bashed. I dunno, hopefully we can all come to good terms share useful knowledge rather than bashings.
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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 12:27 pm    Post subject: Ha Ha Ha! Reply with quote

Yes they are a corporation!!! and I would way rather ride an integrity, but to be fair nick, do you use linex instead of windows>, do you grow your own vegetables, not eat at taco bell and Kfc? Do you pay outrageous prices for gas? I sure hope your on a mac right now! Rider owned is a good thing, but if some kid wants to buy a byerly or a gate let him and let him make up his own mind. I had a byerly and the side wall blew out, and the foam wore off. Someone else might still have that board and be loving it. And whether they "stole" or not they were the first company to give wakeboarding a name and make it a legit sport. And last time i checked wakeskating would never come around if it werent for thomas cutting on the old blunt 69's. (which were wakeboards made by waketech)
but thats besides the point.... The point is that reed and thomas were part of the hyperlite family and they are still in the videos( Butter Effect) they get invited to all the contests, and cassette has a good business relationship with them. OH snaps Justin Stephen's made Asterisk and that was a bad ass wakeskate video! oh hes on liquid force now I guess we just have to forgit about his existence?? Yeah same with george daniels god forbid he ride a pretty decent skate and get more money than any of you ever will. My point is that the byerly toe jam will be cool next year of maybe you and ryan just get invited.... and you guys will rip.... let your riding do the talking.... it does say alot. I hope byerly and those guys don't read on this site. Hey nick have you talked to reed about the whole stolen board thing? Yeah you can not respect me or whatever but erich is doing something really cool and i will ride an integ over anything i have riden. But lets not forgit the world is an evil corporation.
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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just wanted to add that reed and thomas weren't ever a part of the hyperlite family. Trust me, that's pretty important. Very Happy
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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok close enough he had a contract with liquid force and when the factory went down for a week he could break the contract. When I got my 03' cassette it was still under liquid force. IN 04 they had problems so theres this year? And my point is that thomas and reed understand the benifits of being friends with hyperlite. As with most of the other companies they either don't have the chance or in many cases they have been over looked. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Plus God forbid that someone from a rider owned co actually ride and be friends with oh lets say scott byerly, I would kill to go ride with him just once. Im all for the small companies and thats what i ride but i could easily ride the 05 byerly and not shed any tears about it. Wakeskating is fun, I would ride your mom is she was a good skate. Were all here to have fun, last time i checked it was fun to wakeskate, end of discussion... Your mom's ride for hyperlite.... yuppies and sluts
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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, I understand what you're saying and thomas did understand the benefits of utilizing a larger company's channels to distribute your product (especially since wakeskating was very small and he was trying to sell his stuff through wakeskate.com). That's what he did, and he worked it out so he's have creative control over cassette.

But I"m telling you, thomas would never pair up with hyperlite. Seriously, I won't say any more...

But as you ended it, ride what you feel comfortable with...and my mom wanted me to tell you that she's not a slut...

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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

numb, I agree. . .I know Nick aint ever going to Hype. . . unless Schamltz gets rich and buys it out lol Laughing and I deffinately respect his assloads for that
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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikeskatesonwater, that whole argument about growing your own shizzle, going to taco bell or what ever is irrelevant...

wakeskating can't seriously be compared to that. You have a choice in your everyday life to spend your cash the way you want to. It's just the easy/cheapest choice to go for junk food and crappy products.

also, if you want to do certain things/use certain softwares you HAVE to be on windows... I don't see why you would HAVE to ride a hyperlite...

ROC and corp skates are about the same price and the quality goes hands down to ROC...

you choose what ever you want to ride, but just think about what you are supporting with your $$... that's all

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PostPosted: May 21, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought 2 new Kampus skates for 80 bucks and they ROC(k) out, I got new toys to flog when Ill be at the river for a week starting next weekend
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PostPosted: May 22, 2005 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Ha Ha Ha! Reply with quote

Ok, here we go Rolling Eyes

mikeskatesonwater wrote:
do you use linex instead of windows>, do you grow your own vegetables, not eat at taco bell and Kfc? Do you pay outrageous prices for gas? I sure hope your on a mac right now!


I don't use linux or windows. I don't eat vegetables. I love KFC. I work for my gas and you're damn right I'm on a mac. I don't give a sh;t where any of these industries go (as long as the prices don't go way outta whack, in which case we could start a nation-wide boycott, which is totally off subject) and they are alredy too corporate to do anything. Do you support your local oil rig and ONLY buy their gas? It's unrealistic. Wakeskating is young and we have the power to make it whatever we want. I want to see the power of the industry in the hands of riders and there are hundreds (maybe thousands) who share this view. We can hope that it will happen, but in reality WE have to make it happen.

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And whether they "stole" or not they were the first company to give wakeboarding a name and make it a legit sport.


So stealing is okay? I hate thieves. With a passion. I had my integrity skate stolen from me in Orlando at the end of April. I got it back and now I intend to find the punk that stole it and have him prosecuted with a felony. I hope something really important to you that you had to work for gets stolen from you, and then tell me it's okay to steal.

Who made wakeboarding legit?

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And last time i checked wakeskating would never come around if it werent for thomas cutting on the old blunt 69's. (which were wakeboards made by waketech)

Wakeskating was pioneered, innovated, and revolutionized by Thomas Horrell, but he will be the first to tell you, he did not invent it and wasn't the first one doing it. Jason Messer had the Fresh Water Traction company that made grip to put on your wakeboard so that you could skate on it. (Electricsnow, feel free to correct me if I got any of that last part wrong, I know you have the whole story). Byerly was skating the old 69s by waketech. And I'm almost positive that hyperlite and waketech have/had no connections.

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The point is that reed and thomas were part of the hyperlite family and they are still in the videos( Butter Effect)


hahahahha

mikeskatesonwater wrote:
they get invited to all the contests, and cassette has a good business relationship with them.


Could you explain their business relationship with hyperlite to me? Because I'm not sure I've seen it.

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OH snaps Justin Stephen's made Asterisk and that was a bad ass wakeskate video! oh hes on liquid force now I guess we just have to forgit about his existence?? Yeah same with george daniels


You mistake my distaste for the company as a disliking of the riders. I have more respect for pro wakeskaters than you will ever understand. Justin Stephens is an incredible filmmaker and I hope his relationship with LF is rewarding and enjoyable. George Daniels is one of the best, if not THE best wakeskaters in the world. I love watching his riding and would never stop watching him ride just because he has a different board under his feet.

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god forbid he ride a pretty decent skate and get more money than any of you ever will. My point is that the byerly toe jam will be cool next year of maybe you and ryan just get invited


If he likes the byerly, good for him. It's his choice. I wouldn't hold it against him. He has a VERY wide knowledge base of the industry and he knows the difference between riding for hyperlite and riding for a rider owned co. I only try spread the word to those who see nothing but hyperlite and think that they are the best skates out there with never having ridden any other skate.

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let your riding do the talking.... it does say alot


What does my riding say? No sarcasm or harshness or anything like that, I just want to know the image of me that my riding puts out

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I hope byerly and those guys don't read on this site


I wouldn't know

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Hey nick have you talked to reed about the whole stolen board thing?


I'm not sure if Reed knows I exist. I heard the story from a reliable source and I believe it. If someone could please prove me wrong, it would be taken humbly.

The point of this post is to make you smarter on the subjects you are trying to argue. Ignorance sucks.

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PostPosted: May 22, 2005 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy sh;t that's a long post Smash I guess Grouch won't be reading my essay Laughing
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PostPosted: May 22, 2005 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

damn nick ive wrote shorter essays for my honors english class! Shocked but good points, mike doesnt know waht hes talking about. lol
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PostPosted: May 22, 2005 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

um .........can we get BACK ON TOPIC!!!!!! I have an 04 byerly. when i get to the point that i can start slidin things pretty well, can the lock be mounted to an 04 byerly?

my 2 cents, ride whatever the fvck u want to. as long as u like ur board and are promotin wakeskatin in a positive way, go for it. Smile

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PostPosted: May 22, 2005 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You people treat buying from rider owned companies like its a religion... I love it. I also love the fact that some of you people argue about some things that you have no idea what you are talking about...
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PostPosted: May 22, 2005 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick_Sh, i agree that should make a statue and pray to it every morning, were talking about wakeskating, riding a piece of fiberglass or wood on top of the water, its not life and death, i can remember when nick taylor aka che blanc had brian grubb as his avatar picture, what does that say?
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PostPosted: May 22, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says I was caught up in the hyperlite bullsh;t because I didn't know any better. I now do and am spreading the word. And you can try to define wakeskating by it's appearance (riding a piece of plywood on water) but you will never capture the feeling in words. Wakeskating is my life and I live it.
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PostPosted: May 22, 2005 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya, wakeskaitng is life or death! and just cuz grubb rides for hyperlite doesnt mean he isnt a sick rider. Grubb is CRAZY, and owns, and byerlys also, GD! all hyperlite. But they are sick riders. Having an avatar says nothing. And look at his avitor now.
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PostPosted: May 22, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-=AlexXx=-, no sH!+ i can obviously see that now but all i am saying is people ride different things at different times, and he just said he rode a hyperlite, read it!
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