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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: Integrity or Bi-Level Reply with quote

I just got rid of my LF 43 concave, it was my first board and never had a problem. I know wood has the best pop, but it sounds like the bi-levs are not doing so well. And I've never herd anything bad about Integs skates. SO what should I get? Question
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

integrity has a lot of backers just like the bi-level. some of the earliest bi-levels are de-lamming. i'm more than happy with mine though. i couldn't really give you any input on integrity though. they're about the same price.
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2005 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just so this doesn't happen, I'm going to ask that people please not diss the skate other than the one they support. Say what's good about the one you like, and leave it at that.

If you can explain the pros and cons in a civil way, have at it; just please don't make this another battle of the great wakeskate war

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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what has better pop and wake to wake tricks? And would the integrity be more durable? sorry guyz i just have never ridden neither or know anyone who has. NC sucks for wakeskaters
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bi-level > you

It's got everything and more. Don't even ask me another question. I've ridden mine since I got it (Christmas), no delaminations or anything of the like.
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2005 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i cant explain to you the fluency and ease that the bilevel produced wake to wake. and the bileve has more pop i think, ive ridden both and once you get used to it you can really crank the pop out no problem it seems limitless. and yes the integrity is going to be more durable. personally i would recomend the bilevel, cause i see myself progressing more on that, which to me is an easy trade of for more durability.
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2005 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shuvit720, If you take care of your stuff, the bi-level will rip as long as you will. If you don't think that you can put enough effort into taking care of a board, then the integrity will be the most durable wakeskate that you can find. They are both top-of-the-line skates that have their own spot in the sport. Demo them if you can.
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2005 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cannot ride till late April, do yall think that all of Cassettes problems will be sorrted out by then (RUMORs and BS about the durability of the skates)
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2005 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shuvit720, as far as I'm concerned, there is no Cassette problems right now... Just because 3 people on this message board have delammed decks (which may, or may not even be their fault, we don't know) you can't go out saying Cassette is having mass recalls, and claiming they have durability issues. I'm actually quite sick of people posting about their board problems here... It is between you and the company, if you have a problem with your deck talk to the company about your warranty. Don't go spread rumours on the internet trying to discourage people from riding something that is perfectly fine.
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PostPosted: Jan 17, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^Amen^^^
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2005 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: Integrity or Bi-Level Reply with quote

Shuvit720 wrote:
...I know wood has the best pop...


Actually wood typically has less pop (obviously the bi-level is a different story because of the design).

I'd personally go with an Integrity. It's super durable, pops great, has a killer concave, and is all around THE SHlT. I'm especially excited to see the new Lemons' pro model - Urethane sidewall and thicker bottom sheet, etc. Sick!
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2005 5:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to clear things up: my bi cracked but i'm still more than happy with it, just need an a night with some good glue and a good sealant afterwards.

As Nick Taylor said, if you can take care / repair your board when needed the bilevel is a great choice.

I am riding with a friend most of the time and we used to both ride and love the Integrity. Then I got my bi and we started riding it. But after a few pulls he is back on the integrity cause he likes how it feels better.

Try to demo them, both are fantastic boards but are for different riding preferences. It's not that one is more lip and the other more w2w, they just have a different overall fell

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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2005 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

INTEG DUDE you wont be disapointed. dont buy a board that is already having problems buy a tank that has mad pop =integ....
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2005 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick taylor, let me tell you that I'm more than impressed with your position on this issue. at least someone gets it...
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2005 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

electricsnow, AND Nick Taylor, sitting in a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2005 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PIRATE, You might understand if you were around for our first "disagreement" (which I was totally wrong on by the way)
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2005 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

electricsnow, Nick Taylor, awwwwwwwww group hug LOL Laughing
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2005 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

this isssue is never gna stop i guess

ive riden both and the bilev imo out performs the integ. even if the bilev wasnt around i wouldnt buy an integ just because of my opinion of the company and it didnt suit me. i could ollie it very well but everything else was very weird feeling. i went out on the bi-lev and first ride landed 3 shuvs and huge inside shuvs.
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PostPosted: Jan 18, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great comeback pirate...I think I heard some first graders chanting that song last week. I give you and your tartini's "props."

Your friend ..I think his name is LOW pride, is quite funny (an I"m being serious here).

Winter on here sucks and this board company fighting is getting way out of hand. I feel like there's enough information on this MB for people to make a decent decision without some numbnuts piping in and saying how lame company x is. Point blank, if you buy an integrity or a cassette bi-level, you'll be getting something very special. And not only because they're both completely different concepts, but both have a lot of heart and creativity invested in them. I don't know about you, but to me that's important and totally respectable.

And on a similar (and closing) note, both boards can be good, it's just more about what you're looking for. Both are schralping machines with high performance riding in mind, so take it from there...

OK pirate, now you can make one of your freaking awesome "jokes" about how lame cassette is, and how their wakeskates suck. Which leads me to one final question: do you know the difference between a joke and an insult? Or is everyone else's definition completely backwards and are you a comedic king?

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