Wakeskating.com :: View topic

YaBro · Backside 180 Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 624

i donno. I know everyone hates it when they break a deck. how can we support our favorite peeps when we make boards that cant break? How will companies make money if ppl have a deck from 3 years ago? i just wanna discuss this and hear peoples opinions.

Schmaltz · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 721 City: San Jose

Here my take on it....

If you are a "core" wakeskater who lives it... its a lifestyle not a hobby ... then you want to rely on your equipment and expect it to get you a full season or more of hard riding and many many sessions at places such as OWC or winching in sketch areas prone to heavy damage. instead of driving to your local shop to fill out or wait for your warranty / replacement. then your the guy Integrity builds for... you can also turn around and get a solid return/resale price if you decide to sell it... invest that money into a new upgrade or next years latest model. We are not trying to under build so we can cheapen your experience and make extra fast turn around cash... that's Liquid forces job in a nut shell... they cater to the masses who spend more and ride less... we cater to the progressive core who at the end of the day advance the sport... They understand this and we build life time type customers who respect our short term sacrifice for the long term good to the sport as a whole.

Plus... I don't want to hire people or waste my time or your time manning the phones ringing off the hook complaining about their decks delaminating / warping / breaking just to send them a new one... i'd rather make less money and ride more... then make more money and ride less...

one of many examples i could give you.

wakemitch · Posted: May 12, 2009 2:25 am Post subject:

YaBro, people will still want the newer shapes newer technology. and also if they love the product they will tell their friends to buy one too.

joeyskids · Ollie Joined: 21 Apr 2009 Posts: 84 City: Farmingville

Yeahit's totally the same for me with snowboarding- I ride about 70 days a season, so my boards get a LOT of asbuse. Every 3 years I grab a new board, regardless of how beat up my old one is. I like the updated tech, new feel, and the snap of a new board. Call me spoiled, rich, whatever you want, but when it boils down to it, if I love the sport, I'm going to support it.

And supporting snowboarding is not supporting Burton. Corporate snowboarding FTL.

I'm sure the exact same goes for wakeskating.
And about any other individual sport out there.

Gnarly Dancer 42 · 360 flip Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 5121 City: kalamazoo

yeah same here with the snowboards, i like having the latest gear because it gets me even more stoked to ride because its brand new

Grouch · Kickflip Joined: 16 Feb 2004 Posts: 3146 City: The OC

I buy a season pass & new snowboard gear every year. I buy the snowboard based on graphics and just spend all of my time at the resort bar trying to pick up on chicks!

Same thing with wakeboarding & wakeskating. I just fill up my board racks with the cool gear and to hot laps and power turns up and down the lake.

TWG · Kickflip Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 3258

WTF? sometimes you should learn when to keep quiet. this says nothing for all the hard work that kevin has put into devotid. makes people wonder whats up with devotid being they are the only company we never hear any new news from Confused

tjmac · Backside 180 Joined: 08 Nov 2007 Posts: 780 City: valley

Schmaltz, damn. show em wats up

YaBro · Backside 180 Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 624

thanks ppl for the replies

TTUFAN24 · Posted: May 12, 2009 5:20 pm Post subject:

wakeskating wil never be like skateboarding if you dont break decks. and dont we all want it to be just like skateboarding? except half pipe which is gay right? even on the water?

soy escuala · Backside 180 Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 2248

lake weir ocala FL · Backside 180 Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 1241 City: Ocala

TWG, Why should he keep quiet? I think its a pretty valid question and one that should be discussed. I don't think he was attacking anything Kevin has done at Devotid with his post either.

When I first read Oury's post I thought of those Stride gum commercial's because they "never lose their flavor" or whatever. Laughing

But on a serious note, some people want to have a fresh deck, the newest technology, clean graphic and so on. This is where having a board that doesn't break doesn't mean you won't make money. Personally, I rode my 06 TNT for almost 2 years, with a nice gash in the sidewall, and it still had great pop. I picked up the 08 TNT so I could try the new X-Y axis weight thing, as well as the new size. I think I might still be the only person who likes the regular core better than the Bamboo though. Laughing

YaBro · Backside 180 Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 624

lake weir ocala FL, winner

lake weir ocala FL · Backside 180 Joined: 06 Jun 2005 Posts: 1241 City: Ocala

TTUFAN24, I don't know if your serious or not (I hope not). You must have forgotten that you can pick up a blank skateboard for about $30, whereas the cheapest concave wakeskate is still about $200. The price to break ratio is about the same. A skateboard may last a month for the casual skater, and a wood concave might last about a season (lets just say 8 months) for someone who wakeskates often. This equals about the same amount of money per month riding.

YaBro · Backside 180 Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 624

some one bring this guy some dessert please

fastgreens · Kickflip Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 3563 City: baytown

Schmaltz, you are the biggest fvking hater Laughing

if i was jimmy redmond i would come find you and kick your ass Smash

you don't give a fvck about customers... you just like jerking around a bunch of cOckriderz by making them pre-order and wait months for you to build a skate because you strive for "more ride time"

LF has done way more than you will ever do for the wakeskating industry. if it wasn't for nick... your company would be mediocre at best.

didn't liquid force manufacture the original cassettes?

knox · Kickflip Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 4693 City: Gainesville

Boards should be made to last. If someone really likes a board, and are impressed with its quality/durability, they will be more likely to buy that brand again even if the board doesn't break, because they know about the boards durability personally. If I got a board that broke in a month, I would not buy it again.

Kid512 · Posted: May 12, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject:

fastgreens, wow.

gatorskater · Posted: May 12, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject:

fastgreens, hit the deck man

cheapskate · Backside 180 Joined: 09 Sep 2008 Posts: 1424 City: Baytown

fastgreens, Im with ya on that bro!!